All the players left / leaving have had issues with the owner prior to Tim Sheens arrival, maybe Patterson jumped the gun??
From the tone of Koukashs tweet, he isn't being given a choice to rescind "we agreed to release him from 1st Oct whether leigh were in SL or not, I hope he honours it as the club have, we are not interested in keeping him".
If the rumours for Fages of 22k + Flanagan are true I'd be happy with that, Flanagan slots into Patterson / HH role.

Forgot to add hope the first announcement is Sheens is staying long term.

Thought Flanagan was ooc and saints not renewing so he is not part of an actual deal per se.

I don't know the exact ins and outs but your more than likely correct.
But if the deal for Flanagan is true separate or not I will be more than happy.

Flanagan is out of contract and isn't part of any deal that will see Theo announced as a Saints player shortly.

With regards to others, Paterson made his bed when he agreed to join Leigh back in July. Super League looked a cert for the Leythers at the time, since then the wheels have well and truly fell off Beaumont and Rowleys wagon and consequently Paterson tried to renege on his Leigh deal only for Tim Sheens to tell him to stick it.

The others as has been mentioned on here is all to do with brown envelopes and money. Hansen and Chase thought they were invincible and used this to their advantage, the club are better off without either of them here in my opinion. All part of the same clique, I hope it is the last time we see such a high influx on Kiwi/Samoan players in the dressing room at any one time.

Much as I'm gutted to lose Paterson (I think he is on his day as good as any 2nd row in the league) it shows the new attitude from the club and it's an attitude I think everyone of us has been looking for.

What about Sa'u and Hauraki? are they not part of it? I'd be surprised if Sa'u was as he always seems like a family man who away from the club steers clear of any nonsense. Hauraki I worry about as we know how close to Chase he is, I wonder if he will still have the ex clique chirping in his ear about what has now thankfully passed.

I agree, similarly with the Dave Taylor signing, all seemed done and dusted until Tim Sheens arrived and insisted he isn't the type of character we need in the dressing room. I have really enjoyed watching Paterson this season, but another year on, consistent knee troubles, I don't think he will prove to be a great loss.

Sa'u was told he could find another club if he wishes, nothing to do with any clique but just more down to Sheens not rating him. When he heard we'd offered him a new two-year deal (a panic move to appease fans by Marwan and Vickers on the back of the Theo debacle) he wasn't happy. We saw at Widnes what Sa'u can do when he is up for it and in the mood, but for me he just doesn't have enough of those days, particularly against the better teams in the league.

Weller has another year left and as far as I know he's staying put.

Well, it seems to me now that MK has finally had some proper RL advise. Tim Sheens is the best signing he has or is ever likely to make. Now I think, finally, that MK's dreams of building Salford into a top contending team within SL can start. Much the same as us with Powell, you now have somebody who you can trust to take the club forward on the playing side and build a cohesive squad rather than a team of individuals. Sheens doesn't take prisoners, but knows the game better than anybody I could mention currently involved in the sport. I've never had a lot of time for MK and his way of doing things, but anybody that can put their hand up, admits to their mistakes and takes advise to put them right deserves a bit of respect. I am hoping to see him put some more of his money into youth development, and I shall be watching the progress with interest. That was a difficult post to write for me looking back on some of the soap opera episodes coming out of Salford over the last 2 years, but I like to give credit where credit is due and I think you are now starting on the correct path. Oh, how do you fancy a straight swap Carney for BJB??

What's carney actually done as to why you want to get rid of the top 5 wingers in the league.

Nice post.

I can only speak personally but I'm quietly hoping that this is the case. I don't want to jinx things by shouting it from the rooftops you see . I see next season as the first 'proper' season after getting our bender out of the way and settling down to how things should be done. Sheens is definitely the man for the job, whatever that job is in the Club. Even MK seems to have matured in his role since Sheens came in, admittedly helped by the rise of King of the Bell-ends, Derek Beaumont snatching the mantle. All I can say is Fingers crossed for us that this is the case.

As for Carney and BJB? I'd be happy with that swap, not that BJB has done much wrong, I just see Carney as the type of player Sheens would prefer out wide rather than BJB and I'd agree with him.

I think it's something to do with his 'Man from milktray' impressions recently...

Thats one way of putting it

Obviously, everything at the moment is just rumour and so to comment wouldn't be wise of me. However, due to his rumoured 'misdemeanours' I don't think that the coach or players want him around the group anymore and, if true, not the type of person we want at our family orientated club. The togetherness and spirit being shown by the players on the field cannot be compromised by one man, better off gone. Great shame as he was starting to play some of his best rugby in a Cas shirt.

Head over to casforum Dirk if you want to read all of the rumours, it will give you the general idea

The first inaccurate post I have seen from you JGR, normally your spot on.

Paterson was leaving whatever division Leigh were in, his family where left high & dry with Visa issues and were on the verge of being deported (Marwan failed to cover the cost as agreed) and so he chose not to take up a second year option.

Hansen has asked for an early release because there are too many money concerns & dramas and Sheens cannot guarantee he will stay as he wants the Australia job. The club desperately do not want Hansen to go and have told him so, he has NOT signed for leigh.

Maitua was signing for Salford but they failed to pay him on his FIRST payday with the money they got transferred from Fev, he then chose to sign the Leigh contract.

Chase has been used as a scape goat even though he wasn't the only one to fail to come back early from pre-arranged leave because Salford NEED his large contract off the books quickly.

Every player Salford have approached for 2016 so far have declined to sign.

Have I missed something ?
Has Sheens commented on this ?
I'd like Carney here and assume that Sheens agrees with me !

Thanks Caslad will do, thought it would be something along those lines.
As for the comments "not the type of person we want around our club", given our track record he'd fit in nicely at the AJBELL then

Surely not.
We'll soon see