The Butcher, you say you are staying out of this as you don't know the facts, however then firmly round on the player. I know it is hard to see but something is clearly wrong. Harris, Fages, Locke, Hock, TP, CCJ's, Players not getting paid the list goes on. Something is wrong and badly wrong. To much smoke at your club.

I don't know what to make of anything surrounding the club these days. What the hell has happened since Easter? Everything seemed great until then, apart from the ongoing TP drama which was mainly hushed whispers at the time. I've lost interest to a large extent now, I can't see how we're even going to attract new players if there aren't major changes in the way the clubs portrayed over the coming months.

this is nothing new ,
Remember Jordan Turners .. bad back injury under McRae .
I also remember both Sculthorpe & Harris sitting out their Warrington Deals in an effort to move on .
still deeply depressing a ' home grown Player ' walking out on the cusp of a knife edge 7 game qualifiers tournament.

This

I base my opinion on the facts that I know, rather than the ones I don't. In Fages case it's quite simple. He dropped down the pecking-order behind Chase and Dobson. He then wouldn't sign an extension even though the Club told him he was valued and his time would come. He then put a transfer request in and the Club put a value on him. The value was high because it reflected what the Club thought of him, his remaining contract, and hoped he would come around. He then waits until just before we start our most important fixtures for years to upset the apple cart some more and try and resign and take the Club to tribunal. Something that another player who dropped down the pecking-order tried, and by the looks of it, failed.

I can't disagree with you when you say there's something wrong at Salford. That much is plain. But exactly what it is is just speculation to us.

On a personal level, if players want to go, let them. I'd rather support a group of players who want to be at Salford and are poop, rather than a bunch of players who think they're great but are poop.

You are discussing the affect here but don't know the cause. He is obviously very keen to leave. Dropped down the pecking order? To me it seemed more like soon as Dobson was fit he was out of the picture. Players are wanting to leave behind very lucrative contracts.

Do you think that Brian MC made that statement without hearing things?

Really none of my business but the fans need to know what they are spending their hard earn cash on, is it a Rugby League club or just some ones ego.

I am a Warrington fan, but I've always followed Salford's progress (or otherwise) with interest, as I work in Manchester just across the M60 from the AJ. It really does pain me to see what the Salford fans are going through. I was always of the opinion that MK was a breath of fresh air in our game and so supported most of his rant and raves (all be it with raised eyebrows!). I know the majority of what we hear is purely conjecture about MK's financial dealings, but IMHO there is no smoke without fire. Unfortunately now I think matters have got to the stage where something drastic has to happen to prevent the Salford name being tarnished more than it is. Could the club survive without The Docs money? (honest question to you supporters).

Salford loses money for its owner,always has done,so it's a rich mans hobby.
If we've breached Theo's contract terms,then he's entitled to take whatever action is open to him which may not necessarily mean that he can resign.
I suspect the RFL will be tough on the player,or it could open exit doors all over the place.
Very sad that it's come to this,it's happening constantly. Like toothache.

You're also discussing an affect without knowing the cause. You're speculating. We also have players signing extensions so it can't all be the Nazi death camp of SL players. Strangely, when Dobson was fit he WAS out of the picture. That's what we call a 'pecking-order'.

Yes. It really is none of your business, but feel free to lecture us on your own perceptions.

I'm not wearing rose-tinted glasses, here. I'm not supporting one side over another, and just a bit fed-up with my Club, the attitudes of some players, the owner, and the hordes of idiots who want to lecture Salford fans like we haven't heard the same old ty opinions repeated for the last two and half years.

I think we all know the club is/has been a shambles behind the scenes this year. The fact he wants to leave in the first place is down to the way things have been at the club in recent months. However the timing of this is what will leave a sour taste in regards to the fans/player relationship. No need whatsoever for it to be happen now when he is already transfer listed and more than likely would've been on his way in the off season anyway. A disappointing attempt to rock the boat before the most important part of the season and a big up yours to a fanbase who could even be described as being over supportive of Theo during his time at the club.

Another good young player down the road,

I just wish sumone would get a grip of my club and put everything right that is going wrong,

I will still be there next season , super league or first division or where ever we are.

I just wish i could win the euro millions and buy the club, Talk to the players and sort out what is wrong, because what ever it is, it is not getting any better.

Blimey! I certainly didn't feel I was lecturing anyone. I was having an opinion and if that makes me an idiot so be it. I respect everyone views and don't insult people for having them. It's a forum open for all forum members, the meaning of forum is "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged"

That is what I thought I was doing. I'm sorry I had a view.

My personal opinion is that it's not Theo's fault that this is now in the press - he is the unfortunate player who is stuck in the middle of a wrangle that his representatives and the club are discussing - going by some of MK tweets, he is also saying it's no fault of Theo's...

Can we stop the witchhunt/scapegoat searching that is dividing the support between Theo and MK.. Salford Rugby League Football Club is more important

It seems to be broken promises, Re- MONEY not just Theo but quite a few players. Who will be the next player wanting away ? When will Tim Sheens Leave like all the other people the Dr brought in ?
The GOOD Dr needs to get his act in order or we will slide down the divisions

It's getting very depressing, We will all have to start doing the euro lotto in an effort to save our club

It wasn't aimed at you, Danny. More a general rounding-up of, in the majority, ill-thought opinion and personal dislikes for the last few years. There isn't a thread that goes by without groundless and pointless lecturing from opposition (and sometimes our own) fans. This is fine, but it wears thin after a long time.

I wasn't disagreeing with everything you said, far from it. There's always two sides to a story and at the moment we don't get that with anything to do with Salford. Some of it is Salford's fault some of it isn't.