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Great.
Hocks average is available for 2 games in every 15, and those 2 we lost .
Hock damaged goods, Locke crocked , Sau knee knobled , Dobson, Paterson injured .

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Quote: middleman "Great.
Hocks average is available for 2 games in every 15, and those 2 we lost .
Hock damaged goods, Locke crocked , Sau knee knobled , Dobson, Paterson injured .'"


Yep,glass half empty at the moment

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Yes we could line up like

Evalds
Bjb
Griffin
Sau
Johnson
Chase
Fages
Taylor
Lee
A walne
Hansen
Hauraki
J walne

Walton
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Moz
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Still a decent team, with 4 homegrown players in the starting 13. Trust me Gaz Hock is not the way forward liability now lets cut our losses and go all out and bring in a top quality hooker!

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Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights. ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013 Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all. Foe is our friend. mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey All blocked - Go ahead punk make my day.:11969.jpg



There's plenty of people saying the club should cut him loose as he is without doubt a liability on the field, does his repeated infractions on the pith give grounds for the club to terminate his contract?

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Time to cut our losses, misses considerable chunks of the season and wanted to leave the club all together before the new season.

How many more times is this balloon going to get away with it? Don't even get me started on his Twitter antics.

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Quote: Solly "Time to cut our losses, misses considerable chunks of the season and wanted to leave the club all together before the new season.

How many more times is this balloon going to get away with it? Don't even get me started on his Twitter antics.'"


That could be another 5-8 game ban right there. So he will miss at the very least 11 games how many more chances can this guy have. Harris needs to stamp his authority and Koukash needs to stop being pally pally with certain players.

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Having thought this through I think the club should just cut their losses and terminate Hock's contract with immediate effect. If this club is going to get anywhere it needs to be professional and do what is right for the business. I just can't see him ever changing and I could see it happening again and again.

How can the club possibly market him as a sporting icon and what kind of message does it give? Furthermore let's not forget Hock wanted away at the end of last year until he realised no other club wanted him or could afford his contract. There was no loyalty shown from the player so why should the club show him any?


To miss 25 games through suspension since 2011 is ridiculous and as far as I'm concerned enough is enough. It would be a shame for the lad but in business you sometimes need to show a ruthless streak and make some tough decisions to be successful. It would be interesting to know what Tim Sheen's thoughts are on the matter?

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I sometimes wonder how many players would be available to play for their clubs had they'd been under the same scrutiny as Hock?
He has pleaded guilty and has received a strong ban and a £ 600 fine. The club now has a duty of care to help him through the 7 weeks he cannot play.
We have no shortage of forwards in the squad who should be looking to get their chance and make a positive impact if selected.

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Is our resident immigration expert Cas fan not around and offering free unsolicited legal advice?

I wait with bated breath his take on this, then fully expect the opposite to transpire.

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Quote: Michigan red "There's plenty of people saying the club should cut him loose as he is without doubt a liability on the field, does his repeated infractions on the pith give grounds for the club to terminate his contract?'"


He wasn't was he?
Does he have a lisp too?

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Salford Red Devils RLFC. [quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]:



I agree with all of the above. Cut our losses, terminate his contract and just pay the lad what he is due. We were all naïve enough to think he could change and become a genuine asset to our team, but he’s just been true the words of every Wigan, Widnes and countless of other supporters who all told us he was a liability.

If anyone watched the first 20 minutes of the Saints game, he was our best player. Such a waste of the fantastic talent he has.

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Your in dreamland if you think Leeds and Salford would merge that will never happen:



Quote: BartonFlyer "He wasn't was he?
Does he have a lisp too?'"

We've definitely bought a lemon.

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Quote: BartonFlyer "He wasn't was he?
Does he have a lisp too?'"


Suffering Succotash, I got that wrong didn't I icon_wink.gif

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To miss 25 games since his 18 month drugs ban ended in 2011 is unacceptable. Off the top of my head 13 of them for us. Plus he has been thrown out of the England squad for going out on the sauce. I was all for keeping him when he decided to stay, but not now. Time to get rid and free up some space on the cap. All the talent in the world, but there’s something missing up top. He doesn’t know how lucky he is, he owes the sport of Rugby League a hell of a lot because without it he’d either be dead or at her majesty's pleasure.

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Whether getting rid and terminating a contract would free up cap space is, I think, a bit tricky in the way the salary cap rules work.
If this were to happen I suspect m'learned friends would be soon making some dosh!

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