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| This public berating of the squad is pathetic. At first it genuinely was "refreshing" to hear a Chairman come out and say what the rest of us were thinking, but now I feel it only serves to keep our sizeable mong element worshipping him.
If we're not getting the results he wants then there are ways to manage that business behind closed doors that are more effective. I think the fact he is still producing these stupid outbursts is demonstrative of a very weak off-field management team.
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| Quote: Iain "Am I the only cynic who wonders if this is actually more down to poor advance sales for the event than outrage at a defeat?'"
I agree with you - as I usually do and it is a pity you are not one of the advisory board panel.
Trying to attract a decent attendance to the next 2 home games is more important - particularly when reading the Dr's article in this weeks RLE and the problems/cost for the stadium.
SRD lost on Sunday to a side higher than them in the league.Leeds lost to London,recently and Wigan lost to Bradford - both lower in the league than even SRD.
For the Harris critics how about viewing the win/loss ratio of Wigan since Harris left there,and how about remembering Harris managed to get SRD away from relegation and within less time than Noble had here,who managed the wooden spoon and a hefty remuneration,only.
The majority of the players managed to under-achieve on the opening game of the season in the second half,against Wakefield.Most were Noble signings and this was after a 16 days team-bonding session in South Africa.Harris ain't had that opportunity.
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1602.jpg Sad preacher nailed upon the coloured door of time;
Insane teacher be there reminded of the rhyme.
There'll be no mutant enemy we shall certify;
Political ends, as sad remains, will die.:1602.jpg |
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| Full agreement for all the above.
As to the question posed to me, one of Morley, Sau, Hock (despite odd brain f@rts , he has been much more disciplined than I expected), Chase, or Fages. All different, all crucial in any success we attracted.
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| Quote: Red-Devils-PAW "
For the Harris critics how about viewing the win/loss ratio of Wigan since Harris left there,and how about remembering Harris managed to get SRD away from relegation and within less time than Noble had here,who managed the wooden spoon and a hefty remuneration,only.
The majority of the players managed to under-achieve on the opening game of the season in the second half,against Wakefield.Most were Noble signings and this was after a 16 days team-bonding session in South Africa.Harris ain't had that opportunity.'"
Good that Noble is still in your thoughts.
I actually agree that Harris has done a good job and,whilst I thought Nobby was hard done by,I was wrong.
There has been a massive over reaction to the Wakefield result,led by MK pandering to a section of the fans.
Before Lou Kate lets on, I wasn't at the Wakefield game so I can't judge just how bad it was apart from via Jack Dearden.
We'd been doing well. I was at Huddersfield and we were tremendous
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
All blocked - Go ahead punk make my day.:11969.jpg |
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| Evalds, Sa'u, Theo, HH have all been very good for me this season.
Very odd move by the Doc this one, if an apology is required from the players the awards night might just have been the right time for them to make it.
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| Quote: Michigan red "......... if an apology is required from the players the awards night might just have been the right time for them to make it.'"
To a near empty house?
I think Iain has probably hit the nail on the head in his earlier post as to the real reason??
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
All blocked - Go ahead punk make my day.:11969.jpg |
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| Did people have too pay for tickets or where they free?
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71248_1418040451.jpg On the 8th day, God created Rugby League
On the 9th day, Satan created Salford.
A battle ensued through to to late on the 12th day.
A few hours later, a truce, and on the final stroke of midnight, Code 13 was created...
Heaven and Hell combined forces and delivered Salford Red Devils...a legacy is born!!!!!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_71248.jpg |
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| Quote: Michigan red "Did people have too pay for tickets or where they free?'"
tickets were £20 or available at half price if you renewed your season ticket
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| Quote: Red-Devils-PAW "
and how about remembering Harris managed to get SRD away from relegation and within less time than Noble had here.'"
When did this happen? As we were 8th when Harris took over, and now sit in 12th. The way people go on sometimes you would think Harris had bought Hemel Stags into the top flight.
Despite this, I would agree that in general we have seen improvements under Harris. However I would suggest Wakefield have seen a bigger scale of improvement since Webster took over, without having the luxury of bringing in the likes of Locke and Caton Brown.
87 points conceded in the last 2 away games of the season will hopefully be out of the system by the time next season comes round.
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| Out of interest, has anyone got tickets or know anyone with tickets? I don't know of anyone (who was intending on) going.
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Salford is a Broadway musical
You might not believe me but Salford IS a Broadway musical
The set is low budget
The cast didn't go to RADA
The audience don't clap politely like sea lions begging for fish
They're Rocky Horror rowdy
And the worst reviews come from those who haven't even seen the show.: |
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| It was a disappointing result but the reaction from the Doc is bordering on childish.
The comments about days off etc would be better served being voiced in private to Iestyn Harris as opposed to publically undermining him.
As for comments about lack of ticket sales, 200 in hospitality and an additional 150 non diners who I assume have bought tickets specifically for the event.
By normal match day standards that's above average, especially as none of them will be from London.
A month of planning, nine guests in hospitality and its cancelled on a whim, its fair to say I'm a tad unimpressed as is the business I represent.
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| Public criticism of players in public media strikes me as being highly unprofessional. We were all disappointed by such a heavy loss, but to place the cause purely on the players on the field is misguided.
The "team" particularly with such an outspoken, emotional Chairman, starts with that Chairman. It includes the CEO, the Head Coach, his assistants, conditioners and then the players. To exclude those influential people above the players and lay the blame solely on them is equally misguided and, frankly, naive.
Each of those parties bears a responsibility and until each of them can see where they contributed to that failure, we will not make progress.
Many years ago, we had a bronze sign in the business in which I worked. It said "The floggings will continue until morale improves."
From where I'm sat, that seems to be the SRD motto.
At some point in time, one or more of the players will, I am sure, echo that view, but at this moment, won't express it, publicly or in-house, for fear of their own livelihood.
While I have the greatest admiration for the Chairman and his contribution to both the club and the game, the club seems to be run as an autocracy, which may have worked in MK's business, but can't possibly work in a sports environment.
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
All blocked - Go ahead punk make my day.:11969.jpg |
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| I have a great deal of respect for the Doc for what he has done for Salford and wants to do for the game as a whole. But that said saw him on Rugby AM last night and while he spoke a lot of sense his idea of having an ex player run the RFL is one of the problems RL (and to a degree sport in this country) has, it will always be a jobs for the boys type scenario when this happens.
Bring in someone to run the RFL as a business, I bet a proper chief exec wouldn't have missed the golden opportunity the world cup of 2013 afforded the game rather than letting it slip quietly out of the general public's mind set.
We have a wonderful sport that basically passes the vast majority of the UK public by.
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1602.jpg Sad preacher nailed upon the coloured door of time;
Insane teacher be there reminded of the rhyme.
There'll be no mutant enemy we shall certify;
Political ends, as sad remains, will die.:1602.jpg |
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| "That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings, and call off Christmas."
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| Quote: Iain "Out of interest, has anyone got tickets or know anyone with tickets? I don't know of anyone (who was intending on) going.'"
We had purchased three tickets,went the to the stadium and got my refund yesterday.
We have also renewed our season tickets for 2015.
According to another poster there were 250 hospitality and 100 non dining tickets sold and if
that was the case there would have been good atmosphere and in line with the event when it was free.
I know several regular supporters who are not on social media who are really cheesed off with the announcements being made as they are.
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