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| Quote: Walshovski "I think the club are doing the right thing in terms of crowds.
We've given away thousands of tickets in the past and all it has done is cheapen the product we've got to offer and cost the club money. Better to have 5k fans paying full price then 10k getting in for next to nothing. The stands may look fuller and it may make us feel better but if its not increasing the revenue we bring in what's the point? Cheap/free tickets generally just end up in the hands of people who would come anyway.
I also think this push for more marketing is a bit of red herring as well. We've currently got the biggest "personality" in the sport as chairman. He's in every newspaper and on every programme. People know we exist, where and when we play, they are just choosing not to come because we are not very good. At the start of the year they turned up because there was the chance we might end up being good but that quickly fizzled away and consequently the crowds dropped. It's a really simple idea, win more games of rugby league than you lose and crowds will increase.
If we were playing Real Madrid tomorrow at short notice the ground would be full, it's not a lack of awareness that's killing us it's a poor product. If next season goes as we hope then crowds will increase (as they have this year).'"
I'd agree with this. I've seen a discussion on Twitter prompted by an article on Total RL about how to increase crowds and talk of the missing thousands from the last game at the Willows and the start of this season. It's simple - the crowd for the Wakefield game were people expecting the dawn of a bright new era and a winning team. That hasn't happened yet, so they've fallen away. The crowd at the Willows will have included them along with people who only ever have passing or no interest in Salford generally, but just wanted to say "I was there" for the last ever game.
Get it right on the pitch and it will start to work off the pitch as well. Patience is what everyone needs, from Chairman to average supporter.
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| Quote: GT "I'd agree with this. I've seen a discussion on Twitter prompted by an article on Total RL about how to increase crowds and talk of the missing thousands from the last game at the Willows and the start of this season. It's simple - the crowd for the Wakefield game were people expecting the dawn of a bright new era and a winning team. That hasn't happened yet, so they've fallen away. The crowd at the Willows will have included them along with people who only ever have passing or no interest in Salford generally, but just wanted to say "I was there" for the last ever game.
Get it right on the pitch and it will start to work off the pitch as well. Patience is what everyone needs, from Chairman to average supporter.'"
Any comparison based on the last game at The Willows is crazy. That was a one-off event. Comparisons should be made on averages and in the last few years at The Willows they were shocking and inflated as we now well know.
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| Quote: salfordredforever "I don't agree as regards nothing to play for. Good performances attract a crowd, it's no good waiting for next year..I also agree that the marketing has dropped off etc and on perusing other boards in particular hull FCC s for there game against wires they had an offer on for £5 entrance fee. They are only 2 places above us and they managed to attract of 12000 so let's make an effort and let's have some promotional offers on in order to attract a larger audience.'"
The £5 fee was for passholders only to bring a friend for £5
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| It depends who you're trying to attract. If you want to bring back the fair weather fans who only follow the club when we're winning, and who will possibly disappear again when we stop winning, then you need to provide them with a winning team. If you want to attract completely new people, then you need to offer tasters, like cheap tickets.
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| Quote: Red John "It depends who you're trying to attract. If you want to bring back the fair weather fans who only follow the club when we're winning, and who will possibly disappear again when we stop winning, then you need to provide them with a winning team. If you want to attract completely new people, then you need to offer tasters, like cheap tickets.'"
We have got more chance of attracting back lapsed fans who got tired of the grinding years of misery than of attracting completely new people who have not previously shown any interest in rugby league.
Fair weather fans may well disappear again if things turn sour but if we give them a couple of years of success we can quickly build up our hardcore from 3k to 5k. More so, how do we go about finding these completely new people to make sure cheap tickets only reach the right hands?
In reality the lines are a lot more blurred in terms of deciding who is a new fan and who is lapsed and any cheap tickets etc is just tinkering round the edges. We saw at the start of the year that when things looked rosy people start finding reasons to come as opposed to find reasons to stay away. The same will happen at the start of next year you'd hope but we need to sustain it.
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| Important is a good end to the season, carry on playing the same style of winning rugby we saw last weekend and it offers a catalyst for next season and makes the club a much more attractive and marketable proposition.
Doubt there can be any type of big name signing left unless we pull an RU player out of the bag so there can be no naming anyone huge on the day season tickets go on sale again like this season.
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| We'll be good for the odd one off decent crowd at Barton, however I fear we'll struggle to get big crowds on a regular basis, mainly due to the fact we've built a ground in the middle of nowhere.
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| We've being the Peel and Council? No doubt it's an issue now, with the proposed infrastructure and retail plans it should be much better in a couple of years time.
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| I dont think the ground is in the middle of nowhere. Less than 2 miles away is the Trafford Centre, one of the countries most popular shopping centres.
A winning side will attract crowds, everyone wants to watch a successful team. How have Man Utd managed to go from 55k to almost 80k week in week out? By winning.
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| Quote: Walshovski "
We have got more chance of attracting back lapsed fans who got tired of the grinding years of misery than of attracting completely new people who have not previously shown any interest in rugby league.
Fair weather fans may well disappear again if things turn sour but if we give them a couple of years of success we can quickly build up our hardcore from 3k to 5k. More so, how do we go about finding these completely new people to make sure cheap tickets only reach the right hands?
In reality the lines are a lot more blurred in terms of deciding who is a new fan and who is lapsed and any cheap tickets etc is just tinkering round the edges. We saw at the start of the year that when things looked rosy people start finding reasons to come as opposed to find reasons to stay away. The same will happen at the start of next year you'd hope but we need to sustain it.'"
For getting cheap tickets into the right hands, I think you could use existing season ticket holders. Allow each season ticket holder to bring someone to one or maybe two games for, say, a fiver. Obviously, some muppets will abuse it and bring along someone who would have come anyway, but they can then spend the rest of the weekend feeling really good about how they've put one over on the club they claim to support, but others will use it to introduce newbies. A couple of my former fellow wage slaves have expressed an interest in trying out a match, but the cost (and our general crapness over the past few years) has always been a bit of a problem.
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| Sorry if I come across being negative. The club has announced kids go free with a paying adult. Smacks of last ditch promotional work to get more in. We've not had a home game for what seems a long time, why not put this offer on after the Bradford game. Seems very last minute and desperate attempt to get the crowd up.
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| Quote: builditandtheycome "Sorry if I come across being negative. The club has announced kids go free with a paying adult. Smacks of last ditch promotional work to get more in. We've not had a home game for what seems a long time, why not put this offer on after the Bradford game. Seems very last minute and desperate attempt to get the crowd up.'"
Do we still do the family ticket of 2 adults and 2 kids for £40? This makes it effectively kids go free every week. Although you are right that they do seem to leave things til the last minute. Every time they wait til the day before the game to announce things such as shuttle bus times and any pre match entertainment. Things like this should be announced at the start of the week.
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| Think they still do the 2 for £40. I bought a family ST this year so havent used it, but I know they did it at the start of the season. You have to ask for them though, they dont offer at the ticket office.
Great value but again, not advertised. They could claim that kids go free every week if they wanted. At least the East Stand would fill up a little.
Missed opportunity in my eyes.
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| Quote: imogensdad "Think they still do the 2 for £40. I bought a family ST this year so havent used it, but I know they did it at the start of the season. You have to ask for them though, they dont offer at the ticket office.
Great value but again, not advertised. They could claim that kids go free every week if they wanted. At least the East Stand would fill up a little.
Missed opportunity in my eyes.'"
Two adults and two juniors for £36 has been advertised for ages,this is good value.
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| Martin Vickers has tweeted :-
a) The Clubs marketing always a good topic for discussion! Well in the run up to this game..been to every school in the City, thats 100+
b) Contacted the 7000 fans who have bought class of 92 tickets, issued 5000 invites to homes across the City, and so much more!
c) Add to that we haven't had a home game for a month, we do need a real strong push for tickets and the same goes for the Old Faithful!
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