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Isn't he replacing Meli.
Bet there's little difference in cost to the club

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Quote: TheButcher "I know a lot of fans of both our Club and others constantly seem to wave the 'Cap flag' whenever we do anything. With every signing there's always at least a handful of people mentioning the 'C' word. I was thinking about this the other day and people don't seem to allow common sense to seep into their reasoning, or simply don't actually give it genuine thought.

This is not a go at anyone, by the way, just an observation.

You have a team like Leeds who we've just signed BJB off, or Wigan with Hansen for example. Teams that are considerably better, successful, and more expensive than ours. We recruit a few better players into a 'lower standard' side, yet people constantly bring up cap this and that. Even though they are not privvy to anyones or organisations finances. I find it strange that fans from teams that include current Internationals scattered liberally throughout not only their first choices but reserves too, don't question how their team can manage not to raise the question of cap space. Yet when a 'lower' team with about half the quality of players signs a couple of decent players, we must be over the cap.

That is not a go at Leeds or Wigan, I was just using them as an example because we've signed players off them.

I also get the feeling that people's guesses at wages of RL players would be considerably higher than they are in actuality. I'd hope that as a Club we will be surfing close to the cap ceiling come the start of next season. If we have the money we should spend it.

I guess that most people jump to conclusions based on very little'"


Good Point Butcher. I've been saying this for years. The Likes of Warrington, Leeds and until recently Wigan have had top class internationals but no-one bats an eyelid. Woe betide little old Salford to sign a few class players and we "Must be Breaking the Cap".

Again, not a go at the likes of Warrington, Leeds or Wigan just an observation of fans opinions!

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Quote: Yorkshire_Red "Oh yes please, I was only saying to the Mrs the other day how Pelissier is exactly the kind of 9 that we need.'"


I've been banging the same drum about him. That would be a great a signing after this year's hooking debacle. Gets through the defensive work expected of all hookers and is top notch going forward which is where we are hugely lacking. Howarth, Lee and Tomkins can all be shipped out for me.

The best part of being Salford fan is signings excitement. The actual rugby league bit is crap.

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Quote: TheButcher "I know a lot of fans of both our Club and others constantly seem to wave the 'Cap flag' whenever we do anything. With every signing there's always at least a handful of people mentioning the 'C' word. I was thinking about this the other day and people don't seem to allow common sense to seep into their reasoning, or simply don't actually give it genuine thought.

This is not a go at anyone, by the way, just an observation.

You have a team like Leeds who we've just signed BJB off, or Wigan with Hansen for example. Teams that are considerably better, successful, and more expensive than ours. We recruit a few better players into a 'lower standard' side, yet people constantly bring up cap this and that. Even though they are not privvy to anyones or organisations finances. I find it strange that fans from teams that include current Internationals scattered liberally throughout not only their first choices but reserves too, don't question how their team can manage not to raise the question of cap space. Yet when a 'lower' team with about half the quality of players signs a couple of decent players, we must be over the cap.

That is not a go at Leeds or Wigan, I was just using them as an example because we've signed players off them.

I also get the feeling that people's guesses at wages of RL players would be considerably higher than they are in actuality. I'd hope that as a Club we will be surfing close to the cap ceiling come the start of next season. If we have the money we should spend it.

I guess that most people jump to conclusions based on very little'"


I don't think you're cheating the cap (at least not yet icon_wink.gif ) - I do think teams are getting more for their cap than Salford though

Logic becomes a lot easier this year, since according to koukash you're spending up to the cap this year - so incoming players should marry up to outgoing players.

Of course, it gets tricky as salaries aren't published. People can only use guesstimates. Some can be figured out through other rumours (like Kevin Locke rejected the bulldogs offer of $400k so it can be a safe(ish) bet that any Salford deal will be in that region), and some are left to guessing (like bjb, I'd say £75k but, I'm literally pulling a number out of the air) - now, there is at least 3 more to come apparently, so there's quite a bit of cap space movement to be considered (far more than is usually seen by the "top" teams (who prefer more settled teams) which is why imo people call foul)

Depending on who goes will depend on whether I cry foul icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Walshovski "

The best part of being Salford fan is signings excitement. The actual rugby league bit is crap.'"


You sum up my thoughts entirely. It feels like a waiting game until we eventually click, realise our potential and progress as a team on the field. Right now our performances are not a great deal better than last year. If anything it's much more disappointing considering all the extra investment.

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Warrington, Wigan and Leeds all have "top class internationals" because they all pull well over 10K paying supporters in at home games. If the Dr is making up the short-fall he is losing a fortune.

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Quote: Tigerade "Warrington, Wigan and Leeds all have "top class internationals" because they all pull well over 10K paying supporters in at home games. If the Dr is making up the short-fall he is losing a fortune.'"


What's that got to do with the salary cap?

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Quote: Tigerade "Warrington, Wigan and Leeds all have "top class internationals" because they all pull well over 10K paying supporters in at home games. If the Dr is making up the short-fall he is losing a fortune.'"

Warrington only had 8,800 last week.

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Were probably only 3 players from being a top top side! Id say a centre, hooker(although i would take tomkins with Owen coming off the bench) & a prop! And if i was being picky probably a natural loose forward!

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "I don't think you're cheating the cap (at least not yet
I can't argue with much of that.

You do highlight the fact that when a team ships in/out a lot of players people call foul, which is still to my mind, not thinking. I'd hazard a guess, and a guess it is, that older players will cost you more salary wise as they sign shorter contracts. Younger players may sign more for stability than sheer wage power. There's a lot of factors involved. We always assume that if a 'big name' moves Clubs it's for more money. It may be. It may be for Stability. It may be for personal reasons. That goes for all players. We just don't know, which is my point really.

We can guess and speculate, but I think the main reason it's ever brought up is a thinly disguised pop at another team.

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Quote: Fozzysalforddevil "Were probably only 3 players from being a top top side! Id say a centre, hooker(although i would take tomkins with Owen coming off the bench) & a prop! And if i was being picky probably a natural loose forward!'"



The best 'Natural' (Ball playing) loose forward Ive seen this year is Joe Westerman.

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Quote: Fozzysalforddevil "Were probably only 3 players from being a top top side! Id say a centre, hooker(although i would take tomkins with Owen coming off the bench) & a prop! And if i was being picky probably a natural loose forward!'"


Steady on chap.....we're fourth from bottom!!

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The signing of BJB is definitely a step in the right direction. Twinned with the signing of Locke, we could be a vastly improved team next season.

Which players are heading for the exit doors at the end of the season?

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Early Bath - Joe Westerman is quality liked him at Cas but he's probably unrealistic if i'm honest!

13 - You've got to be optismitic just pointing areas where we can improve! We've got to remember that Gleeson & Morley are in there last years so will need replacing and Harris has identified the hooker as a problem with the signing of Tomkins.

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle ".Of course, it gets tricky as salaries aren't published. People can only use guesstimates. Some can be figured out through other rumours like Kevin Locke rejected the bulldogs offer of $400k so it can be a safe(ish) bet that any Salford deal will be in that region, and some are left to guessing (like bjb, I'd say £75k but, I'm literally pulling a number out of the air) - now, there is at least 3 more to come apparently, so there's quite a bit of cap space movement to be considered (far more than is usually seen by the "top" teams (who prefer more settled teams) which is why imo people call foul)

Depending on who goes will depend on whether I cry foul Source ?
according to Locke the offer last season was actually Penrith, and it was his club that rejected not the player as he wanted to stay , situation changed though with Tomkins arrival.

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