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| Quote: Johnh1 "I would love to know what job you do Stanley. And whether, if you knew you would not be in that job for much longer, whether you would give it 100%.
The squad of 2013 deserve every credit and accolade for their efforts this season.'"
Yes all the accolades for now giving us the chance to finish bottom of the pile. Like I said they are not mercenaries and are getting paid a good wage for being distinctly average so take your rose tinted glasses off
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| Stanley is right. How you can praise a team of players who could finish bottom of the pile is ridiculous. Forget not giving 100% because they knew they might be out of a job. Fact is they are paid professionals if they don't give their all then they are a disgrace,simple.
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| Quote: Marshy1 "Stanley is right. How you can praise a team of players who could finish bottom of the pile is ridiculous. Forget not giving 100% because they knew they might be out of a job. Fact is they are paid professionals if they don't give their all then they are a disgrace,simple.'"
Please don't try to validate my opinion, all you do is undermine me due to your ridiculous posts. Go to the Swinton site and post on there moron
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| Quote: Stanley30 "Please don't try to validate my opinion, all you do is undermine me due to your ridiculous posts. Go to the Swinton site and post on there moron'"
Clearly the other posters on here have judged you correctly.
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| Quote: Marshy1 "Stanley is right. How you can praise a team of players who could finish bottom of the pile is ridiculous. Forget not giving 100% because they knew they might be out of a job. Fact is they are paid professionals if they don't give their all then they are a disgrace,simple.'"
Come on, Marshy. That's a gross over-simplification of how to support a Sports Club. It takes nothing into account of realities and circumstances.
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
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| Quote: Stanley30 "Please don't try to validate my opinion, all you do is undermine me due to your ridiculous posts. Go to the Swinton site and post on there moron'"
New best mate
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| Quote: Stanley30 "Yes all the accolades for now giving us the chance to finish bottom of the pile. Like I said they are not mercenaries and are getting paid a good wage for being distinctly average so take your rose tinted glasses off'"
Still don't know what job you do Stanley. Most of the players this year were clearly not Super League standard. If they hadn't played we would not have a team to support now. I don't have 'rose tinted glasses'. I just want to recognize the efforts of the players who have played this year. If you are not prepared to do that then that is your choice.
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| Fair enough, we will agree to disagree.
to quote Voltaire
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
Especially being a Salford fan
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| Sometimes Stanley, saying nothing is the best course of action.
It was abundantly clear to everyone at the start of this season that things were not going to go well - expectations have been met.
Personally I thank everyone who has put on the Salford shirt and gone out and tried.
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| At the start of the season, it wasn't out of the question that we could lose every game. That would have been a disaster and would have eroded the fan base and our credibility even more.
The fact that this season's players won six games ( two less than last year's squad) has been a massive help.
They definitely deserve credit for their efforts.
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| I completely disagree, surely that is just settling for second best. Yes they tried but they aren;t good enough. They have been paid a good wage and we have still finished where we are. If McGoldrick is on the 60 K rumored then it is pure day light robbery.
With regards to players playing for us, hence we have a team, that's just drivel. Any player from the lower league would love a crack at SL, once again making them out like there mercenaries, I distinctly remember them getting a bit Ar$sey when they heard they might not get paid!
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| Quote: Stanley30 "I completely disagree, surely that is just settling for second best. Yes they tried but they aren;t good enough. They have been paid a good wage and we have still finished where we are. If McGoldrick is on the 60 K rumored then it is pure day light robbery.
With regards to players playing for us, hence we have a team, that's just drivel. Any player from the lower league would love a crack at SL, once again making them out like there mercenaries, I distinctly remember them getting a bit Ar$sey when they heard they might not get paid!'"
It's about realistic expectations. Understanding the situation and everything that goes along with that.
It's not settling for second best. If you don't see that, then the only thing you have a grip on is observing the team's position in the table and basing judgement off it. Which is not the most accurate way to gauge the nuances of the ebb and flow of a teams fortunes over the course of a season.
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| No, as stated before watching the youngsters develop and get game time has been great. But it doesn't mean I want us to keep any of the other pro's who have been toss. Bar Gleeson who is class.
My question would be who out of the squad bar the babies would you keep? who has showed they are quality enough to be a SL player, people will argue for Jodie and he is exciting but to be fair has had an average season and is gone anyway
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| Depends on those realistic expectations, Stan.
If you're requiring Salford to to be a team full of superstars then it wont happen. You have to accept squad and utility players. They make up the numbers and are just as important when called upon to do a job. In my opinion there are some good stand-out squad players. Dixon, Ashurst, Gibson (before he went) Wagga, Sneyd. Gleeson, Fages and Broughton would probably be classed as better than squad players. If you think otherwise that's fair enough. Your opinion. But I'm glad that you're just watching from the terraces and not employed by the Club to make these decisions. No offence intended.
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| Quote: TheButcher "Depends on those realistic expectations, Stan.
If you're requiring Salford to to be a team full of superstars then it wont happen. You have to accept squad and utility players. They make up the numbers and are just as important when called upon to do a job. In my opinion there are some good stand-out squad players. Dixon, Ashurst, Gibson (before he went) Wagga, Sneyd. Gleeson, Fages and Broughton would probably be classed as better than squad players. If you think otherwise that's fair enough. Your opinion. But I'm glad that you're just watching from the terraces and not employed by the Club to make these decisions. No offence intended.'"
No need for that mate, its an open debate, if I disagree then I disagree. Certainly doesn't mean everything the coaching staff do is perfect, surely that's part of being a fan is that you disagree with certain things and applaud others.
I can understand you list of players who were ok, but they were no more than that. You can take out Sneyd, Gleeson, and Theo as they are either class or academy.
Gibson however is utter garbage and I am amazed he got another contract. His defense is truly awful and I guarantee when we play cas next year you know which side we are attacking
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