I don't understand how you can escape the fact that, as a whole, it's meaningless to us as a Club regardless of what the administration has decided. I understand, as a Yorkie, that anything relating to money is a big deal to you but please tell me as a Salford fan how this outcome changes anything for us?

but what did the original outcome change for you!?

you say neither outcome matters - but it's still £5k and a two point deduction that you could've avoided.

why take risks for something you aren't bothered about?

to me, appealing was just trying to make a statement - the team cheated to win (without pointing fingers) ...there were bound to be consiquences, surely not losing the 2 points was a little bonus, albeit an unimportant one?

Not much changes for the fans (other than a bit of embarassment) granted but one thing for certain the Dr's threats to break the rules next year has been dealt a massive blow by the RFL. His "do whatever it takes" stance as taken a hit. Five grand and 2 competition points is no big deal though.

I rest my case.

The only point you can make actually says it's meaningless.

I also will reiterate that it wasn't me who appealed, but the Club. I can only say it from my perspective which is it means nothing in the long run. We lose two meaningless points and get a fine. It's hardly going to alter the future of Salford RL Club. If you want to debate whether it meant something to the guys that make the decisions you'll have to ask them, as a fan it means nothing. Zero.

No I agree with what you're saying, I just don't see why the club didn't just accept the punishment? It was heavey on the fine, but leniant on the points deduction... surely that was as good a result as they could hope for?

Come on, nobody wants to have points docked

I take your point to a certain degree.

The results of all this smacks of the RFL trying to reel in the Dr's comments, which were pretty naive to be honest.

That I do agree with you on entirely.

WHAT ?!?!?!?!?!?

CHEATED ?????

Are you for real ?

By suggesting we cheated suggests that it was something that was planned in order to win the game. It was a mistake... How can that be deemed as cheating ? You don't think somebody was stupid enough to attempt to sneak a 14th man on... during a live TV game and think that it would go unnoticed. Do you really thing that somebody said 'Quick... 4th official isn't looking... Cas look dangerous here... let's sneak another man on... nobody would notice'

The fine and the points seem excessive... I'd have been happier declaring the game as a draw as both teams did actually deserve something from the game.

For Salford this season, it doesn't really matter. It's an extended pre-season filled with a team of everyone else's rejects. To have any points at this stage is a huge bonus imo. Maybe the Club had nothing to lose and it backfired? I don't know. We've been through so many trials and tribulations this year that docking us points and fines were almost inevitable and we've probably become numb to these type of things.

I don't understand why anyone is bothered or surprised by this. It was a stupid mistake, and deserved to be punished.

The initial fine felt harsh, especially given the prescient set with Saints’ fine for the same rule break in previous seasons - halving it softens the blow. I imagine this was the logic behind the appeal.

The points deduction shouldn't bother us too much, our recent performances are far more concerning than our points tally. Given the way we started the season we're about where we should be - bottom of the ladder, grateful to have a team out on the pitch and amazed that we've picked up any points.

The attitude of some Cas fans is strange though. To the best of my knowledge they haven’t been awarded the two points (I could be wrong, though). If I was in their camp I'd be more worried about their inability to beat by a side made up of cast offs and loan signings hastily thrown together a few weeks before the season. Their nearest and dearest managed to do so convincigly this week...

This is my thoughts entirely too.

I'm not sure why Cas and Salford fans are having sly digs at one another.

Lets just move on and look forward to next season.

I'm not sure it's meaningless considering when anyone (including potential sponsors) look at the table Salford will now have a *deducted 2 points for... On it. And for the 2013 season it will be like that through history now.

I think we'll get over it. Thanks for the concern though...

but you can't surely believe that? It's an insult to you as fans if that's the view of the club.

You're still paying your money to watch a rugby team - you don't tell your loyal fans "ah bugger it, we can't be bothered this year, next year's where it's at!"

if that's the case they may as well let you all in at half price - if they aren't trying this year so why should you pay full