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Quote: J20 "Must be scary money you're offering him and especially if you're willing to pay the Wigan and now Parra fee.

But as a player he really is worth any money you can put up for him! Even if as we are finding now he's out of the 'elite' he does get dealt with 'differently' by the disciplinary panel.'"


I don't understand why you think that we'd be paying 2 fees, 1 to Parra and 1 to Wigan. Parra will have/ be paying Wigan a certain fee as part of the deal for 2014 they struck with them at the time. We'll be paying Parra as we'll have struck a deal with them, also for 2014 and presumably for more money at a later time. Even if the money has yet to change hands, Parra are liable, under contract, to pay Wigan the agreed fee just as Salford will be liable, under contract to pay Parra the fee they agreed. We will only pay one fee, it will just be larger than the original fee negotiated between Parra and Wigan. There will be no financial transaction taking place between Wigan and Salford. Remember, Nobby has some history here, remember how Micky Higham ended up at Wigan and Terry Newton at Bradford?

Don't worry about the 'elite' thing either, we're not planning on staying outside it that long icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Always behind the sticks " remember how Micky Higham ended up at Wigan and Terry Newton at Bradford?

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That got my brain working,thanks.
It was Bradford also involved,earlier,with the 3 for 1 player swap.
Paul Newlove in exchange for Bernard Dwyer,Sonny Nickle and Paul Loughlin.
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Quote: Michigan red "This is one where I'll have to see a picture of him in the Manchester Evening Comic stood on the pitch at Barton in a Salford shirt with the Doc stood there grinning at his coup.

Said it elsewhere but think of the marketing slant when we're changing names back to the Red Devils and a barm pot on the pitch like Hock, it's an absolute dream for anyone with even a modicum of business acumen.'"


Will Hock get a regular game in this potentially star studded Salford team of the future?, perhaps the Doc wants him as the new devil mascot to inflict some pain on that Wolfie, Ronnie the Rhino and that Bull. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: theredshed "Will Hock get a regular game in this possibly star studded Salford team?, perhaps the Doc wants him as the new devil mascot to inflict some pain on that Wolfie, Ronnie the Rhino and that Bull.
Can you think of a better all English back three than Hock, Ashurst and Dixon? move one of the latter two into the locks position and you've got a trio who you'll struggle to better in SL for me, still say Hock is pie in the sky though I'd love to be wrong.

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Quote: Michigan red "Can you think of a better all English back three than Hock, Ashurst and Dixon? move one of the latter two into the locks position and you've got a trio who you'll struggle to better in SL for me, still say Hock is pie in the sky though I'd love to be wrong.'"


I rate Ashurst and Dixon but I think you are getting a little carried away.

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Quote: theredshed "I rate Ashurst and Dixon but I think you are getting a little carried away.'"


No I actually meant a better back three playing together for a SL team, would love to see the emphasis when looking at recruitment lean towards the best British talent.

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Quote: Michigan red "Can you think of a better all English back three than Hock, Ashurst and Dixon? move one of the latter two into the locks position and you've got a trio who you'll struggle to better in SL for me, still say Hock is pie in the sky though I'd love to be wrong.'"


Hansen, Farrell, O'Loughlin are an all English back three that are far better.

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Hate to nit pick, but Hansen was born in New Zealand, raised in Salford though, and has played internationally for New Zealand, and Samoa in the 2008 World Cup. So not really English, sorry Walshy. However, more claim to be English than Rangi Chase.

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Quote: Bill52 "Hate to nit pick, but Hansen was born in New Zealand, raised in Salford though, and has played internationally for New Zealand, and Samoa in the 2008 World Cup. So not really English, sorry Walshy. However, more claim to be English than Rangi Chase.'"


Was going to flag this up but thought no would bother with it. Thanks Bill! His rugby league development was in this country was the point. Plus, as you say, if we're going off which country people have played for internationally we've got no chance.

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Quote: Always behind the sticks "I don't understand why you think that we'd be paying 2 fees, 1 to Parra and 1 to Wigan. Parra will have/ be paying Wigan a certain fee as part of the deal for 2014 they struck with them at the time. We'll be paying Parra as we'll have struck a deal with them, also for 2014 and presumably for more money at a later time. Even if the money has yet to change hands, Parra are liable, under contract, to pay Wigan the agreed fee just as Salford will be liable, under contract to pay Parra the fee they agreed. We will only pay one fee, it will just be larger than the original fee negotiated between Parra and Wigan. There will be no financial transaction taking place between Wigan and Salford. Remember, Nobby has some history here, remember how Micky Higham ended up at Wigan and Terry Newton at Bradford?

Don't worry about the 'elite' thing either, we're not planning on staying outside it that long
That's what I mean 2 fees theoretically but one 'payment'.

Though then you clearly missed the boat on going straight to Wigan?

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Quote: Walshovski "Hansen, Farrell, O'Loughlin are an all English back three that are far better.'"


Hansen is out of contract at the end of the season and Salford are definitely interested. Would love to see him in a Salford shirt, as would his father.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Hansen is out of contract at the end of the season and Salford are definitely interested. Would love to see him in a Salford shirt, as would his father.'"


Would be a great signing.

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Quote: Always behind the sticks "I don't understand why you think that we'd be paying 2 fees, 1 to Parra and 1 to Wigan. Parra will have/ be paying Wigan a certain fee as part of the deal for 2014 they struck with them at the time. We'll be paying Parra as we'll have struck a deal with them, also for 2014 and presumably for more money at a later time. Even if the money has yet to change hands, Parra are liable, under contract, to pay Wigan the agreed fee just as Salford will be liable, under contract to pay Parra the fee they agreed. We will only pay one fee, it will just be larger than the original fee negotiated between Parra and Wigan. There will be no financial transaction taking place between Wigan and Salford. Remember, Nobby has some history here, remember how Micky Higham ended up at Wigan and Terry Newton at Bradford?

Don't worry about the 'elite' thing either, we're not planning on staying outside it that long
From what I've read, Parramatta apparently didn't even know until today about him changing his mind/us talking to him.

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I think someone should make it clear that Dr Koukash does not start these rumours.
Over on the 'Trust in Widnes' forum it is a Widnes follower(s) suggesting their players don't like the surface at Halton and name players signed by Salford.
This one is by a journalist on a Wigan paper - rlSTORYrl

Our players better hammer this lot on Sunday !

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Quote: Red-Devils-PAW "I think someone should make it clear that Dr Koukash does not start these rumours.
Over on the 'Trust in Widnes' forum it is a Widnes follower(s) suggesting their players don't like the surface at Halton and name players signed by Salford.
This one is by a journalist on a Wigan paper - rlSTORYrl

Our players better hammer this lot on Sunday !'"


Reading some of the stuff on their forum before and was surprised just how bitter some of them are towards us.

Wouldn't surprise me if agents of some of the various players we're linked to had 'leaked' rumours to the press to try and get them better deals. There does seem to be a lot of people saying Koukash needs to stop promising we'll sign Player X/Y/Z. Other than him saying we made an offer for Tomkins earlier in the season and possibly an approach for Morley, I've not seen him say in the press that we're after any specific players.

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