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Firstly, Looking at the way Griffin ran the ball and the speed which he got back on his feet, he's definitely worth a punt. Then we need to how Mauro and Foran perform, but considering Wild and Nero are likely to be gone next year, and the small squad, we'll still have a sizeable chunk of salary cap for next season. Particularly as I heard Nero's got a sizeable contract.

Somebody mentioned Cameron Smith, not a chance, but what aiming slightly lower with Robbie Farrah? We could really do with a quality hooker, he'd bring a high profile and help develop Owen. Then we need a quality aussie forward, like Corey Patterson at KR, that would add real size.

Not that I'm suggesting we god given right to sign anyone.

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I would have settled for Keith Mason for that go forward and aggression. i know he's pipping on but the season before last he was great at The Giants

I must admit I'd love to see Griffin stay.

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Kopzach (I know it's the wrong spelling) would have been ideal, I tell you what the 2nr rower from KR on Sunday Paea was huge and for me a couple of big raw boned Islanders like that would do.

Think what we'll see also is some unknowns being snapped up during or after the World Cup.

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I'd like to see us sign a top quality number 9 with a real rugby brain and great handling skills.

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Don't know if it's been mentioned on here but i've seen a few tweets mentioning Dobson coming your way.

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Back in with a bigger offer for Chase....

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Can't see it. I'm told he's 100 per cent happy at Cas but he'd be a good member of the Yorkshire Bus! Plus wouldn't there still be a problem with his Visa??!

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"Next Big Signing" So who was your first?
Gleeson and McGoldrick were players no one else wanted. Griffin doesn't have a future at Leeds. Lowe and the Dr are going to have to get players like that who'll get you in the eight. Agar did it at Wakefield and Noble did it at Crusaders.
The idea that other clubs with wealthy owners are going sell their very best players to you is nonsense. As for the Dobson rumours, yes he's good with the ball in hand but have you ever seen his defence?
For the long term future you are going to have to re-start your U age teams so that the quality players come through your own club. With a wealthy owner in house you won't be forced to sell like you did with Ratchford, Myler and Smith. Pick up released players and bring through your own, top eight has to be your first target with players who will sign for you.
Your publicity went after Morley, Chase and Tomkins and you didn't succeed with any of them.

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Quote: Father Ted ""Next Big Signing" So who was your first?
Gleeson and McGoldrick were players no one else wanted. Griffin doesn't have a future at Leeds. Lowe and the Dr are going to have to get players like that who'll get you in the eight. Agar did it at Wakefield and Noble did it at Crusaders.
The idea that other clubs with wealthy owners are going sell their very best players to you is nonsense. As for the Dobson rumours, yes he's good with the ball in hand but have you ever seen his defence?
For the long term future you are going to have to re-start your U age teams so that the quality players come through your own club. With a wealthy owner in house you won't be forced to sell like you did with Ratchford, Myler and Smith. Pick up released players and bring through your own, top eight has to be your first target with players who will sign for you.
Your publicity went after Morley, Chase and Tomkins and you didn't succeed with any of them.'"


I love the bitterness that us daring to attempt to improve ourselves is creating. Slagging off the defence of a player we aren't even formally linked with icon_lol.gif

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I believe we have three players now in Evalds, Fages and Ford that we would have lost in the future before the Doctor's takeover.

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Funny that every man and his dog from other Clubs seem to want to inform us exactly how we will fail unless we take the 'Ten Year improvement plan' approach. It's amazing that the so-called RL family seems so bitter when someone dares to want to be better. To be fair, quite a few have given encouragement but the majority seem to be armchair CEO's who know the ins and outs of off-field RL to the point that it seems to be a travesty they are not in charge of SL out right.

They seem to be completely informed of our finances, our cap, our youth set-up, and our community development to name a few. I've been kicking myself this evening thinking 'Why didn't we employ half of the VT dwellers to run our Club?'

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Quote: Walshovski "I love the bitterness that us daring to attempt to improve ourselves is creating. Slagging off the defence of a player we aren't even formally linked with
i cant speak for Father Ted, but IMO i think Griffin is a very good signing and i wouldnt mind him at Wigan at the minute given our prop injuries

i think that the DR is obviously creating press for you, but i think he needs to be careful that he doesnt over do it. if you are linked with player X / Y / Z etc etc but nothing comes off then the papers will pretty quickly stop publicising the interest, and poss danger that other chairmen will get bored with the speculation

i genuinely hope that he is successful in what he is wanting to achieve. i heard his 1st interview on Radio Manc and he came across very well and very determined to make a success of things

although i am Wigan through and through i would like nothing better than a super league where any side can genuinely compete with each other, and that the results of most games are a foregone conclusion, sadly SL has not delivered this yet, so people prepared to put money behind a club, with a view to making them self sufficient can only be good for the game in general

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Quote: The pieman "i cant speak for Father Ted, but IMO i think Griffin is a very good signing and i wouldnt mind him at Wigan at the minute given our prop injuries

i think that the DR is obviously creating press for you, but i think he needs to be careful that he doesnt over do it. if you are linked with player X / Y / Z etc etc but nothing comes off then the papers will pretty quickly stop publicising the interest, and poss danger that other chairmen will get bored with the speculation

i genuinely hope that he is successful in what he is wanting to achieve. i heard his 1st interview on Radio Manc and he came across very well and very determined to make a success of things

although i am Wigan through and through i would like nothing better than a super league where any side can genuinely compete with each other, and that the results of most games are a foregone conclusion, sadly SL has not delivered this yet, so people prepared to put money behind a club, with a view to making them self sufficient can only be good for the game in general'"


I understand your point about the publicity, and I'm not sure about the old quote, "there is no such thing as bad publicity".

Thanks for the positive points: a very fair and even handed post. Regards. BD,

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Quote: Butchersdad "I understand your point about the publicity, and I'm not sure about the old quote, "there is no such thing as bad publicity".

Thanks for the positive points

try reading some of the tripe on the Wire board

he's a fake doctor, he's not a successful business man, cash your cheque in before accepting etc etc (being fair some did come back to set the record straight)

looks like their not happy that someone else has a rich owner that could throw the cash around, i mean it not like they havent splashed the cash over the last few years to get where they are today (and i have no problem with Moran investing his money)

i think one thing that it will give you is some stability. One of the things you have been good at in recent years has been taking players from other clubs who dont seem to fit the bill and getting them playing well again. However as you've struggled for success / financially other clubs (and I include Wigan in that ) have come sniffing

with the stability the chances of these players having their heads turned elsewhere should be reduced

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Quote: TheButcher "Funny that every man and his dog from other Clubs seem to want to inform us exactly how we will fail unless we take the 'Ten Year improvement plan' approach. It's amazing that the so-called RL family seems so bitter when someone dares to want to be better. To be fair, quite a few have given encouragement but the majority seem to be armchair CEO's who know the ins and outs of off-field RL to the point that it seems to be a travesty they are not in charge of SL out right.

They seem to be completely informed of our finances, our cap, our youth set-up, and our community development to name a few. I've been kicking myself this evening thinking 'Why didn't we employ half of the VT dwellers to run our Club?''"


Yes, this idea that you need to stretch your improvement out over as long a period as possible in order to make it successful has struck me as being odd as well (even some of our fans seem to buy into it). Who would have thought making noises that you want to buy the best players available, spend the full salary cap and get better as quickly as possible could be so bad for your club.

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