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withheld from you??.........did'nt they advance you next years sky money to get you through last season?? or have i got that wrong?

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Quote: roughyedspud "withheld from you??.........did'nt they advance you next years sky money to get you through last season?? or have i got that wrong?'"

You've got it wrong. The money advanced was the remaining 2012 sky payments plus a small amount from 2013. Certainly not the 650k being held back next year or the 600k being held back the following year.

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Quote: mat "You've got it wrong. The money advanced was the remaining 2012 sky payments plus a small amount from 2013. Certainly not the 650k being held back next year or the 600k being held back the following year.'"


You have concrete evidence of this?

So lets get this straight, you are suggesting the RFL , Loaned you several hundred thousand pounds, bought the lease for you stadium, all to keep you playing through a season, then ' fine ' you?

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They bailed you with next years money, you pay it back ( or dont recieve it ) over two years

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Quote: Starbug "You have concrete evidence of this?

So lets get this straight, you are suggesting the RFL , Loaned you several hundred thousand pounds, bought the lease for you stadium, all to keep you playing through a season, then ' fine ' you?


They will also get the money back anyway via a subsidy on ground rent. A 100k cut price annual rent is double what Wakefield are paying. It facilities they are getting in return has the potential to double the income of ours! No way is that rent the market rate.

One thing for sure the RFL can't just stand buy and do nothing, the precedent has been set!

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Quote: Starbug "You've got it wrong. The money advanced was the remaining 2012 sky payments plus a small amount from 2013. Certainly not the 650k being held back next year or the 600k being held back the following year.'"


You have concrete evidence of this?

So lets get this straight, you are suggesting the RFL , Loaned you several hundred thousand pounds, bought the lease for you stadium, all to keep you playing through a season, then ' fine ' you?


The RFL brought the lease to the ground in late 2011 early 2012 before the season started, the sky money advanced was for the 2012 season the same as all the other teams got. so we did not get anything more than any other team in SL

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Quote: Starbug "You have concrete evidence of this?

They bailed you with next years money, you pay it back ( or dont recieve it ) over two years'"


You have concrete evidence of this?

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Quote: Starbug "You have concrete evidence of this?

So lets get this straight, you are suggesting the RFL , Loaned you several hundred thousand pounds, bought the lease for you stadium, all to keep you playing through a season, then ' fine ' you?

Keep dreaming starbug. RFL advanced us 2 or 3 months wages which were less than 200k each. Not 1.2millon your suggesting. The remaining 2012 sky monies pretty much covered amount they advanced us. This is a topic that's been clarified at out fans forums since the takeover and can't see RFL standing by and saying nothing if new owners aren't telling the truth on this.

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Quote: deeHell "They will also get the money back anyway via a subsidy on ground rent. A 100k cut price annual rent is double what Wakefield are paying. It facilities they are getting in return has the potential to double the income of ours! No way is that rent the market rate.

One thing for sure the RFL can't just stand buy and do nothing, the precedent has been set!'"

Difference is your landlord has you over a barrel. There isn't another stadium you can go play at if you don't pay what they want, unless you go to oakwell or, gods forbid, go to cas. We can play at VP for same rent we pay at odsal. Market rate is set by the local market. What your having to pay is pretty irrelevant.

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Quote: mat "Keep dreaming starbug. RFL advanced us 2 or 3 months wages which were less than 200k each. Not 1.2millon your suggesting. The remaining 2012 sky monies pretty much covered amount they advanced us. This is a topic that's been clarified at out fans forums since the takeover and can't see RFL standing by and saying nothing if new owners aren't telling the truth on this.'"


So you are suggesting that the RFL have FINED you 1.25 million pounds ?

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Quote: Cookie "You have concrete evidence of this?'"


No , I'm making a fairly logical assumption that the RFL are not going to fine a club that has had considerable financial problems 1.25 million pounds

Stupid they are , but not that stupid

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Quote: mat "Difference is your landlord has you over a barrel. There isn't another stadium you can go play at if you don't pay what they want, unless you go to oakwell or, gods forbid, go to cas. We can play at VP for same rent we pay at odsal. Market rate is set by the local market. What your having to pay is pretty irrelevant.'"


Yes you can , but you would lose several times more the rental amount in lost revenue , you have no more choice of where to play than wakey , but you are however getting a very good deal from the RFL

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Quote: Starbug "No , I'm making a fairly logical assumption that the RFL are not going to fine a club that has had considerable financial problems 1.25 million pounds

Stupid they are , but not that stupid'"


Think a lot of people will disagree with that statement. icon_biggrin.gif


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Quote: Starbug "So you are suggesting that the RFL have FINED you 1.25 million pounds ?'"

Simple fact is we don't know what the reasoning for withholding the sky monies is as RFL have never made any statement. But it isn't for monies advanced as the sums just don't add up. Remaining sky money due in 2012 was pretty much same as amount needed to cover the 2-3 wage bills that RFL advanced us money to cover during the administration. They certainly didn't advance us another 1.2million on top of that.

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