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Quote: Fungus The Muffin Man "I did bring up at a FR meeting many moons ago about would it be possible to do one of those charity type schemes where you had x amount of money come out of your wage/ bank acc every month.

That for me would be an easier way of doing it. I would rather do that through an organisation such as FR who can then direct it towards the youngsters for example than shares in the club which we know is terribly mis-managed'"


Good idea mate. BUT do enough people care for it to truly make a difference?

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Quote: eccles star "Not a chance would I waste money on this idea wasted money for years on season tickets they aint getting nothing for this from me'"


I'll donate and I'll double it if you and your cronies go away and leave the real fans alone.

Seriously I have a figure I'll spend on shares (or donate) and if you and the rest of the Wilky brain dead haters promise to never attend a game or come on here again I'll double it even if it means I have to take out a loan to do so.

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Quote: CavendishStreet "Good idea mate. BUT do enough people care for it to truly make a difference?'"

I don't know, but the reason why I don't do the try schee is that I never have spare cash on me to hand over at the game. Infact its rare I carry money at all. I tend to use plastic for everything.
Being able to do a one off set up for a scheme like this l'm more likely to join. Plus strangely I'm also more than likely to give say 10-20 a month and not miss it.

Like I think most people I'm lazy and I want things to be easy.

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I'd be inclined to agree with BartonFlyer and Early Bath on this one. There'd have to be a pretty sound business plan on show before I bought into the current company.

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Quote: Fungus The Muffin Man "I did bring up at a FR meeting many moons ago about would it be possible to do one of those charity type schemes where you had x amount of money come out of your wage/ bank acc every month.

That for me would be an easier way of doing it. I would rather do that through an organisation such as FR who can then direct it towards the youngsters for example than shares in the club which we know is terribly mis-managed'"



Forever Reds had a couple of schemes like this in the first years.

I think I have the forms somewhere in the garage.

There was the 1000 club- idea was to get 1,000 people to each pay £100. You got a badge and a t shirt, I think Paul P or Shirl has all the t shirts left unless there are still some in the garage.

Then the following year another scheme which had family membership.

We had awful problems with the bank and the DD I spent ages trying to tie up the money shown on the statement.

Hazel Blears actually paid to join, that I do remember, not sure about the other 2 MPS at the time. (one now our Mayor)

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Much like a season ticket on DD brings in revenue for the club think a monthly scheme would be ideal. You would obviously need to find an amount palatable to everyone and hope that this was enough to allow the fans a significant presence on the board.

I still though would need to know what we are buying into debt wise and if say we did take on a percentage of the shares would we then be liable for debts from the current regime. And also as I say I would need to know who was representing me and my investment.

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Quote: Michigan red "Much like a season ticket on DD brings in revenue for the club think a monthly scheme would be ideal. You would obviously need to find an amount palatable to everyone and hope that this was enough to allow the fans a significant presence on the board.

I still though would need to know what we are buying into debt wise and if say we did take on a percentage of the shares would we then be liable for debts from the current regime. And also as I say I would need to know who was representing me and my investment.'"

Mich my old mucka nice to see you buying into my idea on how to save your beloved club. You may or may not have seen an earlier post where I'd raised over 400k using a membership model similar to what your advocating.
Personally I'd be vary sceptical about putting the money into the current company as with the greatest of respect it is a dead duck. Why else do you think no wholesale investment and new owners haven't been announced and before any of your comrades start, the reason for the councils latest loan is to protect monies they have already "invested".
Much better any funds that could be raised be channelled through your FR scheme, in waiting for a new debt free company.
In answer to your concern your purchase of shares in the current company wouldn't render you personally liable for any share of the existing debt,one of the benefits of limited liability.

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This thread shows the true spirit of Salford supporters ,and makes a refreshing change from inane ramblings (guilty as charged) so playing devils advocate for a moment.. Is it too late to put a supporters package together , a pot of money for "if" we survive this current predicament ?

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Quote: Fungus The Muffin Man "I don't know, but the reason why I don't do the try schee is that I never have spare cash on me to hand over at the game.'"


It doesn't have to be done at the game. I just fed the cash to Karl as and when I could (and yes, before he starts, I know I still need to cough up for last year...)

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Quote: CavendishStreet "This thread shows the true spirit of Salford supporters ,and makes a refreshing change from inane ramblings (guilty as charged) so playing devils advocate for a moment.. Is it too late to put a supporters package together , a pot of money for "if" we survive this current predicament ?'"


Is it too late? Well "It's never too late to be who you might have been" - George Elliot (1819 - 1890)

Is it realistic to think that a supporters package could raise enough to meet the requirement - that's the real question!

Someone, somewhere has a cash flow forecast, showing projected income, outgoings, debt repayments etc etc - without seeing and understanding that I see little point in putting anything together.

That said, if and when the council sanction the loan and Peel match it and if we believe the statement from Ian Stewart that the move is towards a supporters trust, I'd certainly be willing to work with Forever Reds and provide what expertise I can.

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There's always this to bear in mind as well:

www.communityshares.org.uk/

FC United have raised £1.5 million towards the building of a new ground through a Community Shares Scheme. Whether or not something similar could be done through Salford's fan base is another matter...
There's always this to bear in mind as well:

www.communityshares.org.uk/

FC United have raised £1.5 million towards the building of a new ground through a Community Shares Scheme. Whether or not something similar could be done through Salford's fan base is another matter...


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There is an article elsewhere today saying that Brian Noble fears if he doesn't find an opening in the sport within the next 12 months he'll not get another chance. To me he is rugby league through and through and someone the club/new investors could do worse than looking at for a position. He is not only held in the highest regard over here but also in Australia and could potentially help improve the clubs profile both here and abroad.

I don't know which position as PV is doing a fine job for now as head coach but maybe something along the lines of what SS does but making use of his greater knowledge and profile.

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Quote: GT "It doesn't have to be done at the game. I just fed the cash to Karl as and when I could (and yes, before he starts, I know I still need to cough up for last year...)'"


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I'd buy as many shares as poossible, which, admittedly isn't many on my wage but I'd give what I could. Obviously, like most on here it would be on the premise that the club structura and personnel was completely overhauled. I'd also be willing to offer my services free of charge to help out at the club for a few hours a week. I've got an administrative/managerial background and I reckon I could do more in 5/6 hours than some of the current staff manage in a full working week.

I know Forever Reds is the obvious platform to debate any potential share/fan ownership schemes but if anyone fancied setting up an informal discussion over a few pints I'd be up for it.

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