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I am a Swinton fans and have known bad times for many years but like you will follow them anywhere so long as a blue and white jersey is worn.
For spectators like you I hope they, Salford, can get a decent outcome in all this.'"


The trouble is, there's so many people on this Forum that have invested too much hate and vitriol, that nothing but failure of the Club can pull them out of their position. The sad thing is that some would rather this happen in some weird I-told-you-so fantasy than change their stance on anything.

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Quote: TheButcher "The trouble is, there's so many people on this Forum that have invested too much hate and vitriol, that nothing but failure of the Club can pull them out of their position. The sad thing is that some would rather this happen in some weird I-told-you-so fantasy than change their stance on anything.'"



it also appears that some future investors have done their research and found this website and due to some of the posts have decided that it is not worth continuing their interest, after all the fan is where the money is to make a club viable, if it appears most people are totally Anti-Salford it is not worth wasting money on.

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Quote: Bigpev "it also appears that some future investors have done their research and found this website and due to some of the posts have decided that it is not worth continuing their interest, after all the fan is where the money is to make a club viable, if it appears most people are totally Anti-Salford it is not worth wasting money on.'"


Sorry Pev... I don't buy that at all... I'd say there was probably less than 0.5% of the Salford fan base who regularly come on here in an Anti-Salford frame of mind, and for what it's worth, many of those seem to be those living in the real world who could see this coming.

Any potential investors would not be put off by such a small number of people who had been negative. They would look at the business model.... look at the state of the club and make a decision based on that. They would see the lack of financial commitment from the club to get people through the turnstiles and look at how they could make that change. They would look to generate new support rather than concentrate their efforts on that small percentage that they had lost and would never get back.

I think there is much confusion on here as to whether somebody has got it in for the club, or are just being realistic. Most of those who are deemed the negative few have been going for years and have seen enough... and have heard enough of the constant poor excuses and broken promises given by the current hierarchy to consistently remain in a positive state of mind.

It's those negative people who should have been listened to the club many months/years ago... because most of them have turned out to be correct. It's those who think nothing is wrong and everything will be 'just fine' who do the damage in my opinion... the same people who clap the players off following a good hiding because they are 'real fans'.

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Quote: Bigpev "it also appears that some future investors have done their research and found this website and due to some of the posts have decided that it is not worth continuing their interest'"


Shove them. Anybody that takes offence to public forums and social media must have the mental fortitude of a fucking wasp.

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Loyal fan I do take some issue here there may only be 0.5% of fans who use this site but if you look at Facebook, twitter that is the fan research these companies use, and the evidence from these sites is that people don't support Salford. Some of the posters have a personal axe to grind, but everything that has been suggested in the past to get crowds in has been used, apart from a very successful team. There has been errors made at the top but don't most companies make errors at the top Barclays, RBS Northern Rock spring to mind, but then again without these people at the top we wouldn't be at Barton now or the Willows but most likely a nomad team in the lower divisions. So back to what I started with if these social networks don't make any difference to how people think why do the world's big brands use them to advertise their products and glean public opinion, must be something in it.

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Quote: Bigpev "Loyal fan I do take some issue here there may only be 0.5% of fans who use this site but if you look at Facebook, twitter that is the fan research these companies use, and the evidence from these sites is that people don't support Salford. Some of the posters have a personal axe to grind, but everything that has been suggested in the past to get crowds in has been used, apart from a very successful team. There has been errors made at the top but don't most companies make errors at the top Barclays, RBS Northern Rock spring to mind, but then again without these people at the top we wouldn't be at Barton now or the Willows but most likely a nomad team in the lower divisions. So back to what I started with if these social networks don't make any difference to how people think why do the world's big brands use them to advertise their products and glean public opinion, must be something in it.'"


I'm saying only about 0.5% of fans overall who just come along and criticise on a regular basis... not who use the site overall. Also... I'm also talking about the running of the club rather than just that of getting fans through the gates... There have been some glaring errors leading up to this, and many could see it... many couldn't.

Companies do use social networks when it comes to advertising products, and they may use them to some degree for research... but if a business it worth buying, they will know that before looking at social networking sites based on the business model and it's potential.

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Couldn't agree more, both with yourself and Danny. Come off it Pev.

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Quote: Bigpev "it also appears that some future investors have done their research and found this website and due to some of the posts have decided that it is not worth continuing their interest, after all the fan is where the money is to make a club viable, if it appears most people are totally Anti-Salford it is not worth wasting money on.'"


A daft statement people are not anti Salford,they are anti the way the club is run.Only a crackpot would put money in
and let the present incumbent carry on running the show.

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Quote: lancetodd "A daft statement people are not anti Salford,they are anti the way the club is run.Only a crackpot would put money in
and let the present incumbent carry on running the show.'"


I would say you are anti-Salford with some of your comments, which I notice you don't say directly to the present owner when you have spoken to him in the past, If I didn't know the club, reading stuff on the social networks I would think that they are anti the club and therefore anti-Salford.

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Quote: Bigpev "I would say you are anti-Salford with some of your comments, which I notice you don't say directly to the present owner when you have spoken to him in the past, If I didn't know the club, reading stuff on the social networks I would think that they are anti the club and therefore anti-Salford.'"


Rather than anti-the club being run poorly?

Most of the comments on social media about Salford are easily put down to people wanting the club to be run efficiently and professionally. To suggest investors would be put off by such postings is nonsense. After all, look at the unrest and bitching there was amongst city fans for years - it didn't stop investment there, now, did it?

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Quote: Bigpev "I would say you are anti-Salford with some of your comments, which I notice you don't say directly to the present owner when you have spoken to him in the past, If I didn't know the club, reading stuff on the social networks I would think that they are anti the club and therefore anti-Salford.'"


So in Bigpev's Red tinted bury head in the sand world, questioning the club politics makes you anti-Salford does it. Typical club apologist comment, we the paying public have every right to question the club ethics. I've questioned the directors many a time concerning matters of our decline which obviously meant the conversations lasted seconds.

We all question the Glazers influence on Man utd does that make us anti man utd. No it doesn't. at least the glazers don't rob from charity funds.

Get your head out of Mr Salford's backside BP he's incapable of running an efficient rugby league club. FACT.

New owners please free us from this life sentence of false promises and deceit

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Quote: lancetodd "A daft statement people are not anti Salford,they are anti the way the club is run.Only a crackpot would put money in
and let the present incumbent carry on running the show.'"


Lance, Pev's words were that "some people" appear to be anti Salford City Reds, which to most people that I know feel is correct.

As an example I was at a social gathering last Saturday with 50/60 people all who know that I am a Salford City Reds Supporter and several of these people have been introduced to Salford City Reds matches by myself and other supporters.

During the evening the talk got round to whats up with the club etc and everyone of them who was in the group highlighted some of the comments on Scarlet Turkey, Red Planet Facebook page etc as proof that there appears,to their minds a campaign of anti Salford City Reds bias from some posters and they then quoted the very same posters who I think that Pev was referring to in his post.

Even though they are relatively new to watching the Salford City Reds and have been using the forums for about 12/18 months they say that they know who will be posting about what, whenever something happens,they also have bets on who will get in first, very funny it was.

I also pointed out that it was nothing new as in the 70s with Watkins, Hesketh, Dixon,Fielding, Richards,Charlton etc I used to stand in the Popular Side Stand or the Shed as it became known and actually hear fans complaining over all the above players from time to time and special anger was reserved on occasions for Cliff Evans the coach and the only difference then was that there was no social media forums around for people to use and consequently the abuse was always dished out from a distance.

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There does seem to be some similarity between how you fans feel and Wakefield fans felt under their previous ownership, although JW is streets ahead of those who used to run Wakey.
Prior to Glover buying Wakefield they have around 800 season ticket holders.
Last year following Glover's takeover they had 4000 and their average gate went up by 25% to approx 8100. They have already sold over 3500 for 2013.
I do think that should new owners come in some of your fed up fans will turn up to give it a go. Investment in the squad and a turn around in wins/losses will surely boost your crowds.
Hope you get your new owners, a better squad and improved results which will bring in the crowds.

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Quote: Original Salford City Red "Lance, Pev's words were that "some people" appear to be anti Salford City Reds, which to most people that I know feel is correct.

As an example I was at a social gathering last Saturday with 50/60 people all who know that I am a Salford City Reds Supporter and several of these people have been introduced to Salford City Reds matches by myself and other supporters.

During the evening the talk got round to whats up with the club etc and everyone of them who was in the group highlighted some of the comments on Scarlet Turkey, Red Planet Facebook page etc as proof that there appears,to their minds a campaign of anti Salford City Reds bias from some posters and they then quoted the very same posters who I think that Pev was referring to in his post.

Even though they are relatively new to watching the Salford City Reds and have been using the forums for about 12/18 months they say that they know who will be posting about what, whenever something happens,they also have bets on who will get in first, very funny it was.

I also pointed out that it was nothing new as in the 70s with Watkins, Hesketh, Dixon,Fielding, Richards,Charlton etc I used to stand in the Popular Side Stand or the Shed as it became known and actually hear fans complaining over all the above players from time to time and special anger was reserved on occasions for Cliff Evans the coach and the only difference then was that there was no social media forums around for people to use and consequently the abuse was always dished out from a distance.'"

WHAT A TOP NIGHT THAT MUST OF BEEN,hahaha,what a barrel of laughs your mates are.I bet they had the place rocking,did you give them their initiation on how to bury their heads in the sand like you and your pals on here and become a fully fledged BEACH BOY?

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