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Like I've already said on another thread, I wouldn't break the bank to keep him. Yes he plays behind a beaten pack every week, but for me he doesn't offer enough on a consistent basis. His kicking game is poor and he doesn't really take on the line, he tends to play at first receiver and find Holdsworth on a wedge play. Also he doesn't have the support play of a top class halfback.

He try's his best and gives his all, which is all you can ask of anyone. I just think we wouldn't really miss him if he wasn't here, Sneyd possibly deserves a chance to see what he can do next season. If we spend money on improving the pack then most halfbacks will perform well behind a strong pack, that's where my main concerns lies.

We also need to get Danny Williams signed up asap. I know he's had a couple of injuries, but the guy is a class act when on form and can finish from anywhere. He also makes good meters coming out of yardage (more than our forwards most of the time).

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I wonder if Smith’s agent is holding out for much more in the knowledge that Patten’s departure is likely to free up some money in Salford’s budget? If he is I think the club has to be strong because for me you could not really say he’s improved that much or at all since he signed his previous contract with us. Any saving on Patten’s and others contracts should be allocated to bolstering the pack in my view.

If another club are prepared to pay Matty more then I’d thank him for his services and wish him all the very best.

Also if you Consider the club have just signed the highly rated french kid Theo Fages on a 5-year deal it suggests they see this lad as the next scrum-half of the team in the not too distant future.

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Quote: theredshed "I wonder if Smith’s agent is holding out for much more in the knowledge that Patten’s departure is likely to free up some money in Salford’s budget? If he is I think the club has to be strong because for me you could not really say he’s improved that much or at all since he signed his previous contract with us. Any saving on Patten’s and others contracts should be allocated to bolstering the pack in my view.

If another club are prepared to pay Matty more then I’d thank him for his services and wish him all the very best.'"



well the only club who have offered more are Widnes, I don't think Bradford will be offering more unless they have an appeal every month to pay the players.

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Quote: Bigpev "We have offered a very good deal, would be highest paid at club but he is stalling in signing it.'"

Where have you heard this?


Just on the point of sneyd it's ok playing well in the u20's but it's a massive step up to play first team week in week out behind a beaten pack when all your kicks are defensive seen as the forwards don't get out their own half with 5 tackles! Also matty smith has set a record for playing the most consecutive games not 100% sure whether that is in the entire sl or just salford I think it is getting on for 70 in a row. You can clearly see when he is on the pitch how much it means to him to win and he gives his all every week no matter what that is all we ask for so maybe it's time other players did the same and maybe we would have a better chance. I can't see why people are getting on his back though because without dominant forwards there is no platform to play.

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Quote: BillywhizZ " Also matty smith has set a record for playing the most consecutive games not 100% sure whether that is in the entire sl or just salford I think it is getting on for 70 in a row'"


It's not a record, it's just the longest current run in the league. He's some way to go to catch Stuart Littler's 163 consecutive games.

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Quote: Iain "It's not a record, it's just the longest current run in the league. He's some way to go to catch Stuart Littler's 163 consecutive games.'"

I may have been mistaken then. Apologies!

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And speaking of Stuart I saw this on Twitter:

"Big cheers from the Leigh fans. Scrap breaks out and Stuart Littler floors Ryan Bailey. #rugbyleague"

Made me smile

but back on topic - IMHO Matty Smith is a class act when performing in a successful team - unfortunately of late we're not one!

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Quote: BillywhizZ "Where have you heard this?


Just on the point of sneyd it's ok playing well in the u20's but it's a massive step up to play first team week in week out behind a beaten pack when all your kicks are defensive seen as the forwards don't get out their own half with 5 tackles! Also matty smith has set a record for playing the most consecutive games not 100% sure whether that is in the entire sl or just salford I think it is getting on for 70 in a row. You can clearly see when he is on the pitch how much it means to him to win and he gives his all every week no matter what that is all we ask for so maybe it's time other players did the same and maybe we would have a better chance. I can't see why people are getting on his back though because without dominant forwards there is no platform to play.'"



Chill out Matty, no ones getting on your back icon_wink.gif

Seriously he does show a bit of passion and I like that about him, but breaking the bank for him isn't right for us at the moment IMO. We need to get a pack who lay a platform, otherwise we'll always be struggling no matter who the half are. I'd happily keep him, but just not for the reported sum.

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Smith would be superb for us behind a dominant pack. However, can we afford to keep him and spend money on improving the fowards as well? If it came down to a choice would rather spend the money on the pack personally.

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I think smith has been one of our best players this year and last. Not sure why it is that he gets a hard time off so many people

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It's not that he gets a hard time, he just blows hot and cold. Some of it is him, some of it is a weak pack. For the money, we should be looking at improving our forwards. We have talented replacements should he leave.

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Quote: BillywhizZ "I can't see why people are getting on his back though because without dominant forwards there is no platform to play.'"


Quote: BillywhizZ "I think smith has been one of our best players this year and last. Not sure why it is that he gets a hard time off so many people'"


I don't think anybody is really having a go at Matty, his early season form was good and he always gives it his all.

I think it's more to do with the fact that some people on here believe that every player has a price and the club shouldn't spend more than they should to keep him. The point being made is If the club have more money available due to players coming out of contract, it could be more wisely spent improving the pack rather than giving Matty more money just to keep him.

I would also imagine that with what Matty's already being paid (He will not be on peanuts) the club could replace him with a half decent halfback anyway if he chose not to accept the clubs offer. I would not be surprised if they already have a replacement lined up to cover this possibility.

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Just playing devils advocate but he didn't look to great when he played for Saints in the GF against Wigan with a somewhat better pack-not a superstar just a decent player who has some very good (but not often enough) days

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dont rate him never have!as for dj dont no how people can slag him of he sets most of our try up we would b bottom of table without him!check the stats out u will c x

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