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Quote: Ave It! "And why is that I wonder? Is it anything to do with the 30 years of crap we've had to put up with?'"


We don't have to put up with anything. We choose to.
If I had the time and could be ar$ed (on topic!) I'd quite like to see how many clubs have outperformed us in the last 30 years (on field success and solvency) and how many have either vanished or sit in a far worse position than we do. I've often thought we were over-achieving by existing in the top flight. It's all relative I suppose.

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Quote: Dantes Inferno "You're not coming on here no more because so called negative (left wing not negative) views aren't allowed in your world. Another one bites the dust.....'"


How on Earth do you equate your posts with being "left-wing"?

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Quote: EX.SALF.UNI "We don't have to put up with anything. We choose to.
If I had the time and could be ar$ed (on topic!) I'd quite like to see how many clubs have outperformed us in the last 30 years (on field success and solvency) and how many have either vanished or sit in a far worse position than we do. I've often thought we were over-achieving by existing in the top flight. It's all relative I suppose.'"


Understand what your saying, but we've had so many false promises throughout the years. Yes we've survived mostly in rugby leagues top flight and like you say that is an achievement, but we've rarely been competitive in the top flight (well since I've been alive anyway) and I'm bored of being the laughing stock of Super League. Its frustrating and bloody annoying going to a game knowing your going to get beat or turning up at a game knowing that there will only be a crowd of 3,000 there. All I ask is to be a competitive team in the top flight, look at Castleford and Wakefield for example, ok they've had a couple of seasons in the the lower leagues like us and have struggled in Super League in some cases, but both of them teams have also been competitive more times than we ever have, both have finished in the play offs more than us, both have had better runs in the cup than us. The point I'm trying to make is why can't we? All I hear is we don't have the money, resources blah blah to compete with the top teams and I agree, there's no disputing that what so ever. But do Castleford, Wakefield (Well maybe more so now) etc have the finances to do that? No, but yet they always seem to be more completive than us.

As for having a choice whether I go or not, well maybe I do. But just because I'm fed up like many others it isn't going to alter my choice. I'll be there this week against Widnes and I'll be there in 4 years time when we're not in Super League playing Gateshead away icon_wink.gif

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Quote: GT "How on Earth do you equate your posts with being "left-wing"?'"



I meant it tongue in cheek. I take it you have a sense of humour bypass

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Quote: Dantes Inferno "I meant it tongue in cheek. I take it you have a sense of humour bypass'"


No, it just wasn't funny.

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Quote: Ave It! "Understand what your saying, but we've had so many false promises throughout the years. Yes we've survived mostly in rugby leagues top flight and like you say that is an achievement, but we've rarely been competitive in the top flight (well since I've been alive anyway) and I'm bored of being the laughing stock of Super League. Its frustrating and bloody annoying going to a game knowing your going to get beat or turning up at a game knowing that there will only be a crowd of 3,000 there. All I ask is to be a competitive team in the top flight, look at Castleford and Wakefield for example, ok they've had a couple of seasons in the the lower leagues like us and have struggled in Super League in some cases, but both of them teams have also been competitive more times than we ever have, both have finished in the play offs more than us, both have had better runs in the cup than us. The point I'm trying to make is why can't we? All I hear is we don't have the money, resources blah blah to compete with the top teams and I agree, there's no disputing that what so ever. But do Castleford, Wakefield (Well maybe more so now) etc have the finances to do that? No, but yet they always seem to be more completive than us.

As for having a choice whether I go or not, well maybe I do. But just because I'm fed up like many others it isn't going to alter my choice. I'll be there this week against Widnes and I'll be there in 4 years time when we're not in Super League playing Gateshead away
i totally agree with you. Castleford, wakefield, huddersfield, warrington, hull KR, have all had around the same finanaces we have been working with at some stage and their no laughing stock. They've risen above us vastly especially warrington huddersfield and hull kr. Wakey did go to the wall at some stage but they seem to have come through it and have a decent team folding havind seen them against widnes.

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Quote: Dantes Inferno "i totally agree with you. Castleford, wakefield, huddersfield, warrington, hull KR, have all had around the same finanaces we have been working with at some stage and their no laughing stock. They've risen above us vastly especially warrington huddersfield and hull kr. Wakey did go to the wall at some stage but they seem to have come through it and have a decent team folding havind seen them against widnes.'"


Sheffield
Gateshead
Leigh
Widnes
Halifax
Paris
Workington
Crusaders
Swinton
Oldham
Featherstone

...the list goes on of clubs who have had around the same finances (or greater) than us who can't currently claim to have risen above us.

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Sad preacher nailed upon the coloured door of time; Insane teacher be there reminded of the rhyme. There'll be no mutant enemy we shall certify; Political ends, as sad remains, will die.:1602.jpg



Suggest we stop this argument now: we seem to have it on every topic no matter what it is. The fact is that two GOOD posters are leaving.

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They'll be back methinks!

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Good riddance.

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The fact is this is a "supporter" forum, why DI continues to post on here when he posses no qualities of a "supporter" says allot about him personally. He won't support the club financially, he won't attend in person, and he has nothing supportive to say. So why does he come on a "supporters" forum forever trying to convince everyone that JW needs to leave? Because he is sad, and probably unhappy in his own life thats why. It doesn't add up does it - how sad is it for someone who openly admits they don't support the club to take a a vague interest in that very club then sit at home and type post after post of garbage insulting the club

Sad or what. (not just my opinion DI - that of everyone - except Mitie Mice)

"I want JW out, they won't get another penny from me, the players (nearly all of them) are rubbish, the stadium is laughable"

Maybe so, but as mentioned it's a "choice" to support this outfit. If you don't like it don't do it. I could understand if you were spending hard earned cash on the club DI, but you've openly admitted you're not. So you instantly lose part of your say on the matter.

I feel sorry for people who have supported the club for 30+ year's and have been active on this forum since it's existence only to have their general banter and discussion ruined and turned into vile insults & nonsense by people like DI and Mitie Mice.

The only way to get them to disappear as mentioned by many other's is to not rise to there bait. There only after an argument and a rise to make themselves feel mildly interested in there drone like existence.,,

Seriously boy's, get a life and leave the supporting to us men, remember you've made your position clear DI, you don't support the club, so fit in, or f.uck off
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Quote: Lyrad Red "So why does he come on a "supporters" forum forever trying to convince everyone that JW needs to leave?'"



One word.

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How is it an agenda? So anyone who points out how amature the club is will have a hidden agenda? Me thinks not! Just because a select few on here see no wrong with the club, I suggest they have a wonder over to the facebook page! The tinted specs brigade would have heart palpitations if they started to filter over here....

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Quote: Lyrad Red "

Sad or what. (not just my opinion DI - that of everyone - except Mitie Mice)
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Not my opinion Mr.Don't provoke on behalf of me.

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Quote: Lyrad Red "The fact is this is a "supporter" forum, why DI continues to post on here when he posses no qualities of a "supporter" says allot about him personally. He won't support the club financially, he won't attend in person, and he has nothing supportive to say. So why does he come on a "supporters" forum forever trying to convince everyone that JW needs to leave? Because he is sad, and probably unhappy in his own life thats why. It doesn't add up does it - how sad is it for someone who openly admits they don't support the club to take a a vague interest in that very club then sit at home and type post after post of garbage insulting the club
'"


Change the record Wooly back. How many times do you need correcting. I've supported Salford a lot longer than you, put a lot more monies in JAW's back pocket than you, so who are you to tell me to fook off. Ha Ha You don't even come from Salford you dicchead, so you f,uck off. I'm far from sad by the way i have a great life, have a beautiful Mrs, two wonderful children and job which has more satisfaction than you'll ever have. As for typing vicious posts look at your own postings lately, yeah all vicious and insulting.

Quote: Lyrad Red "The fact is this is a "supporter" forum, why DI continues to post on here when he posses no qualities of a "supporter" says allot about him personally. He won't support the club financially, he won't attend in person, and he has nothing supportive to say. So why does he come on a "supporters" forum forever trying to convince everyone that JW needs to leave? Because he is sad, and probably unhappy in his own life thats why. It doesn't add up does it - how sad is it for someone who openly admits they don't support the club to take a a vague interest in that very club then sit at home and type post after post of garbage insulting the club

Sad or what. (not just my opinion DI - that of everyone - except Mitie Mice)

'"


The Salford public's attitude is changing towards JAW. You wouldn't know living in wooly back land. Everyone i speak too agree's the club is a laughing stock run by comediens.
Quote: Lyrad Red "

Maybe so, but as mentioned it's a "choice" to support this outfit. If you don't like it don't do it. I could understand if you were spending hard earned cash on the club DI, but you've openly admitted you're not. So you instantly lose part of your say on the matter.

I feel sorry for people who have supported the club for 30+ year's and have been active on this forum since it's existence only to have their general banter and discussion ruined and turned into vile insults & nonsense by people like DI and Mitie Mice.

'"


What you're not understanding is. I was born in Salford. Raised in Salford. Still reside in Salford. My kids go to school in Salford. My life is Salford. I don't have to explain to a St Helens numpty who accuses me of not supporting my club when i've already explained i've put more monies in this club than YOU. Just because this season i've had enough of 30 abysmal years of torment i suddenly can't have a bitch and a moan because a numpty from St Helens says so. Fuc,k off back to your shlthole woolyback. I've got more say than you about the running of my club.




Quote: Lyrad Red "

Seriously boy's, get a life and leave the supporting to us men, remember you've made your position clear DI, you don't support the club, so fit in, or f.uck off
xxx'"



No seriously you get a life. Your attachment to Salford is due to a playing relative. Your support is false and timely. I do support the club but view the club would be better without the comediens running it. Even if it means dropping to NL1 for a few seasons to clear the ijit's, so be it. Then with everyone singing from the same hymn sheet to which it hasn't for 30 years thats when we'll finally get somewhere. So you've been corrected again. It must be your weekly fix.....

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