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Quote: Chris Charles No1 Fan "Its a no from me. would rather see the rugby genious promoted if he was going to have 2 assistants.'"


NO!! Lets not go mad, the rugby genius is working minor miricles producing gareth owens The rugby genius has already got the top job @ the club because having good youth means you have a good future unless he wants to be a superleague coach and he states that why change the only thing that works @ the club

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Think it'd be a bad move, hes not better than McCrea I think, one is bad enough, but two. icon_neutral.gif

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I can't see it happening but if it did I'd remain open minded. Both have proved they can win things with quality players. If you consider we will have what looks a much better squad next year, having two experienced coaches around could possibly help the team as long as they are both capable of working together.

Lets not forget the club have been one light in the backroom staff dept since Scott Naylor went. By appointing two new extra coaches surely this can only benefit the individual players and the team as a whole. (More coaching time for specific smaller group training sessions, etc?)

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Oh jesus i have only just heard this im praying it doesnt happen we already have one useless coach with about no comitment why do we need two of them.

Both useless in my eyes.

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Quote: The optimist "NO!! Lets not go mad, the rugby genius is working minor miricles producing gareth owens The rugby genius has already got the top job @ the club because having good youth means you have a good future unless he wants to be a superleague coach and he states that why change the only thing that works @ the club'"


Who would you choose then? i know Alan is enjoying his role that he is doing, as he mentioned this at a forever reds meeting. i think that if an oppertunity arose that a position would be available then i would prefer Hunty rather than Millward. He only won things with Saints as like Mcrae they were a great side that didnt need much coaching. Either you or i could have coached them. What has Millward done since?

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Quote: sortedshaun "Oh jesus i have only just heard this im praying it doesnt happen we already have one useless coach with about no comitment why do we need two of them.

Both useless in my eyes.'"

You're talking out of your backside. Both McRae and Millward are extremely dedicated coaches. Millward is also very passionate about his teams. Whatever their qualities as coaches may be - and we were happy with both of them, but especially loved Millward - to question their commitment is to truly talk out of your backside.

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Quote: SaintsFan "You're talking out of your backside. Both McRae and Millward are extremely dedicated coaches. Millward is also very passionate about his teams. Whatever their qualities as coaches may be - and we were happy with both of them, but especially loved Millward - to question their commitment is to truly talk out of your backside.'"


Have you seen McRae's body language? I'm not saying he doesn't care, but his body language alone suggests this isn't the same guy that managed Saints and Hull. He's lost definitely lost his (sorry about the terminology) mojo. The lack of confidence he has in himself is reflected in his players. Every season he's been in charge, the team has looked woefully short on confidence.

What's Millward got left in the tank?

Daniel Anderson is highly regarded as being a good coach and Penrith............. let me stop there. coach saints, possibly another Super league team, end up back in OZ, bomb out and come back to the UK without having a great deal of success. Anyone else see the similarities.

Putrill would probably be a better option. Not been saddled with the responsibility of head coach roles, learnt his trade under coaches who know how to play the game and has been involved with the hands on day-to-day stuff.

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Quote: LincolnDEVILSFan "I'm not saying he doesn't care, but his body language alone suggests this isn't the same guy that managed Saints and Hull. He's lost definitely lost his (sorry about the terminology) mojo. The lack of confidence he has in himself is reflected in his players. '"

Maybe that's because the fans all berate him for having to coach a team that isn't good enough to play in superleague but he hasn't been able to change that due to financial restrictions over which he has no control. Give him some meat and he'll make a tasty pie. Give him gristle and all you'll get is a sick feeling in your stomach.

Oh, and Daniel Anderson coached the New Zealand team to a series win prior to coming to St Helens. He's now with the Eels and during the first season he got them up the table and to the Grand Final. All the Saints players say he is the best man manager they've ever worked for and he got things out of our lads that Potter would never even come close to getting.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Give him some meat and he'll make a tasty pie.'"



I bet he would.

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Quote: Chris Charles No1 Fan "Who would you choose then? i know Alan is enjoying his role that he is doing, as he mentioned this at a forever reds meeting. i think that if an oppertunity arose that a position would be available then i would prefer Hunty rather than Millward. He only won things with Saints as like Mcrae they were a great side that didnt need much coaching. Either you or i could have coached them. What has Millward done since?'"


The rugby genius had the opportunity all last season as we ran one light after naylors departure to say "i want to be an assistant coach to a superleague side" he didnt he is doing a fantastic job building a succesful youth system somthing which us @ salford will rely on heavily in the short medium and long term future.

We'll have Alker / Talau as assistant, Millward as another assistant and mcrae as the top boy it kind of mirrors the succesful set up @ celtic this season of Harris, sharp and noble for now.

People moan that mcrae and millward can only coach good players, we havnt signed any duffers yet, we've got rid of a few mind so imo the quality of player in our squad has gone up
Like saintfan said give mcrae and millward some meat and they will make a pie its the 1st time in his rein @ salford he's been given a good size of quality meat he cant moan anymore about making do with what he has and not having the money its do or die this season for mcrae if he fails millward takes over and regiggs his staff, alker / talau will have 12 month to see if they are cut out for the job and are binned and replaced if they ant with some one who can

If the rugby genius marched into simms office said "steve, ive taken this youth system as far as i can go i want a shot @ the big time make me assistant coach or im off" id give him the job there and then.

After 6 years of hard graft behind the behind the scenes the club are begining to see the fruits of the rugby geniuses labour, if you ask him i recon he'll see his achievements as just the begining and if he continues to get the investment he's had from the club and forever reds i recon in 3-5 years we'll probably have half a team full of "alans lads" which can only be a good thing.

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Laurie Gant to replace McRae for me. With Gant at the helm we wouldn't need to worry about employing assistants.

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Quote: Yorkshire_Red "Laurie Gant to replace McRae for me. With Gant at the helm we wouldn't need to worry about employing assistants.'"

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Being reported on the France federation site(ffr13) that Millward has been appointed as assistant coach.

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We'll have Alker / Talau as assistant, Millward as another assistant and mcrae as the top boy it kind of mirrors the succesful set up @ celtic this season of Harris, sharp and noble for now.

People moan that mcrae and millward can only coach good players, we havnt signed any duffers yet, we've got rid of a few mind so imo the quality of player in our squad has gone up
Like saintfan said give mcrae and millward some meat and they will make a pie its the 1st time in his rein @ salford he's been given a good size of quality meat he cant moan anymore about making do with what he has and not having the money its do or die this season for mcrae if he fails millward takes over and regiggs his staff, alker / talau will have 12 month to see if they are cut out for the job and are binned and replaced if they ant with some one who can

If the rugby genius marched into simms office said "steve, ive taken this youth system as far as i can go i want a shot @ the big time make me assistant coach or im off" id give him the job there and then.

After 6 years of hard graft behind the behind the scenes the club are begining to see the fruits of the rugby geniuses labour, if you ask him i recon he'll see his achievements as just the begining and if he continues to get the investment he's had from the club and forever reds i recon in 3-5 years we'll probably have half a team full of "alans lads" which can only be a good thing.'"


Just to put the record straight Talau hasn't been appointed as an assistant coach. This has been misintepreted due to some lazy journalism that mentioned about Talau and Alker retiring and joining the coaching staff. It was just a badly written article that has caused a lot of confusion.

With regard to Hunte I wonder if he prefers the stability of doing what he may consider a long-term role with the club. If he was assistant and things went badly on the pitch or the head coach changed then he's more likely to lose his job. Maybe Alan has created a niche for himself within the club and wants to concentate soley on developing young players.

I do agree with you and the Saints fan about the meat to make a Pie comment! I don't think Mcrae could use the 'quality of players excuse' with the squad he's got for 2011, fail to make the top 8 next year and he will be gone! (And I wouldn't think he'd need telling)

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