Duneman couldn't make a difference without some go forward. Even Luke Robinson looked like he could walk on water that season, he definitely hasn't looked that good a player since.

agree with you 100% ,wilky you must get rid now and save us fans from further hurt ,

I sit here tonight in a state of shock, in 44 years watching Salford I have never seen a team so devoid or inept of any idea of what to do with the ball. Worst still I am looking at a Litre bottle of Jack Daniel's and wondering will it be different through the bottom of the bottle. I have never ever felt this low, I have tonight witnessed some good players unable to play to their best ability by a game plan of percentage rugby. We went in at half time 12 - 8 up and then the SLUG gave his halftime talk, pinching the ball in the tackle is not in the game plan so stop it. We pass the ball along an almost straight line not deep but very shallow none of this running onto a ball to get further yards no take it flat and stood still and then start to run the 3 yards we have got to play in. No individual stuff just play it along the line and complete our sets of 6, the SLUG would be proud that we nearly completed all our sets in the second half. We made no ground did not burst through a tackle just passed the ball and took the tackle.
The game was dyer, the SLUG has torn the heart out of my team, over the last couple of years I have marvelled at what Ratchford could do tonight the French lads had two stand in half backs who ran the game, under the SLUG Ratchford has gone backwards, he is afraid to take on the line, put up the high ball, play off the cuff all the things that made him a stand out player all now seem to have disappeared under the SLUG game plan.
I have a very heavy heart at the minute, maybe I will feel different in the morning possibly a hangover, but for the life of me I don't want to watch this dross anymore, I have my season ticket but I can not at this moment see me using it again after 43 years the SLUG has managed to do what no other event in my life has done and that is say I can not take this no more I feel like saying thats it I am no longer going to watch Salford City Reds. The players are going backwards, the people who could take the club forward have gone, Robbie as assistant coach, not Alker, Trish on the marketing side, the club is sinking faster than the Titanic, we can not afford to keep the SLUG at the club, he is driving the crowds away he still gets his wages win, lose or draw and they must be a drain on the playing capability. This hurts the most we do not deserve to be in Super League, if the SLUG stays, we do not need a new stadium the Willows will do for the National League. Whilst we flounder under the poor coaching of the SLUG another group might take up the Manchester Franchise like the Sale Yawnian, because they will not put up with the crap the SLUG puts before us each week.
The SLUG is clueless, he has no idea on attacking rugby, the other Super League coaches must laugh their socks off when he is on Sky with the other two fukk wits who are stuck like the SLUG in rugby from 20 years ago.
Well Jack is calling me, the world might look better tomorrow but Salford will still be the worst team ever in Super League with the Worst coach ever to work with players who need some coaching not like the teams he coached who did not need the work. We have managed to go backwards under the SLUG in three years we are now back where we were in the 80's with Save Our Salford.
Peel Holdings must m#now be having serious thought to having their flag shipo the Trafford Centre covering the biggest pile of turd ever.
sorry to ramble but the last time Salford reduced me to tears was because we had hammered Wigan in 1996, tonight they flowed for a different reasson.

SLUG OUT SLUG OUT SLUG OUT

As posted on Mcrae thread...

Not sure the loss tonight can be put down to Mcrae though. We were following the game plan and doing nicely, keeping them mostly pinned in their half with long kicks and starting to create the space to move the ball around a bit.

Then Alker pointlessly touches the ball after it's passed (no way was there an interception chance) and gives them another set of 6 that they score from. In the second half Gibson makes a complete town halls of an attempt to stop a kick from going into touch (it wasn't anywhere near a 40-20 either catch or leave it to bounce into touch) which gives them good field position and they grow in confidence. Smith passes into touch on the 2nd/3rd tackle in pur own half - they score. Henry cocks up a catch and so and so on. Our short kicking game was pants and with plenty of possession in their 20 we didn't force one drop out

You could see when they stuck to the plan they did OK. In the last 5 minutes there was a good set move from a scrum followed by another set move or two which got us about 60 metres (came to nowt and was too little too late but showed that they are clearly coached set moves).

Having said that I don't know where Mcrae can take them. They are either not good enough or not inspired enough to follow his plans. There is no flash rugby in super league these days its all about possession and territory so I don't mind Mcrae's tactics that much. The tactics are very similar to Harrisons but his team executed them better (he also seemed more focussed on the little battles - landing on your front, quick play the ball, getting them on their back).

have a J D or 2 mate.Know how your feeling and agree with your views.

As pev says there are some decent talented players in our ranks who are being coached by a coach who has no idea how to get the best out of them,with his dismal crazy percentage rugby tactics and hoping the opposition have an off day!!what does the SLUG say in his halftime teamtalk????....wouldnt suprise me if Ratchford got a big telling off for trying something different with that great ball steal just before halftime!!(mind you what wee the rest of the team doing at the time???)
Anyone come up with a reason why he must stay??BRING IT ON!!!...No doubt though the slug will come out with his famous quote..."ahh well we will take some positives out of the game!!"

This team look totally Clueless, Short on confidence, Passion, Heart, Ideas, Agression,Knowledge, Skill, Brains and its all down too the COACHING! Top and tale of it. Whats happened to Adamson Last season he was doing ever so well and knocking on the door for International Honours, Where was Matty Smith, Holdsworth Lacks Balls he is scared to take anybody on, Stef looks shot he must be praying another club comes in and saves himfrom this utter style of dross he is being told to play. Sidlow and Phil Both look like Tarzin and Play like Jane, The recruitment has been AWFUL and that is down to the managment PURE and Simple it is a joke. This club of ours is on its KNEE'S! Wilky for God sake Heads need to ROLL now, OR the investors that are "Bidding" for the contract at the stadium will take one lok at our position in the table Our Abysmal Crowds , Our inept coach and Think "hang on minute DO we really want to pay millions In this CLIMATE for a bunch of crap that even 2 and half thousand people dont wanna watch. I love my club but im begining to lose heart and love , I paid £150 from my hard earned money and NOW is the time for the fans to get what we want! Mcrae OUT Simms OUT, A complete sweep NOW. SOS SAVE OUR SALFORD.

I feel more saddened every week - the club is imploding. Too many wrong decisions being made in every area of the club. Sickening.......

Off the Field 3 games played
First match after a slow start we get a live band in the club
Second match Live band gone but a screening of our Grand Final win
Third match NOTHING

WE NEED TO DO MORE TO GET PEOPLE IN

Fourth Match CLUB SHUT

Even after 2 bottles of wine that performance still is in my mind.
$hite sums it up.
Lets play the McRae way.
1/Pass straight a long a line, make no yards.
2/Pass to forwards who are static when they receive the ball
3/Run straight in to the markers at every opportunity
4/Flair or skill is not allowed
5/Kick straight to the full back or in to touch at every opportunity.

Enough is enough, if JW can not see what is happening then he is blind.
Fook the fact we cant afford to get rid of the turd, we cant afford not to.
Alker and Simms also out.
Alan Hunt as Coach and Robbie Paul as assistant could they honestly do any worse.

McRae has to go. It is said the club cannot afford to sack him. I say they cannot afford not to sack him. By the end of the season, if not before, there will be no one watching and with poor gates, low revenue streams etc you can forget a franchise.

From where I stand in the Shed, towards the North Stand end of the ground, there are already many faces in the crowd, familiar over the years, absent.

I have said on several posts that the club has gone backwards since McRae came in. We were poor in the National League, it was only full time status that saw us through. The style of rugby throughout his reign has been dire and there are no signs of it improving. We are never going to win a game with one man rugby, when we concede a minumum sixty yards over six tackles because we don't move up in defence and so have to start on our line very set. Then because we are so slow at the play the balls and players get the ball standing we are lucky to get out of the forty before a kick and back the opposition come again. It has gone on every week. Mcrae often highlights this lack of field position but has he changed or done anything to rectify things. Again tonight we saw a side who upped it against us , tweaked things at half time and we had no response. Catalans were missing both their first choice half backs!

The players are making mistakes but their morale looks shot. There is clearly no confidence, co-ordination or method in anything they do. I thought it was hard of the Shed to have a go at the players tonight. There are players out there fit to wear the shirt. They are just in a badly coached team. Stefan Ratchford is a case in point. He was prefered to Myler by us all last season and yet he now looks a pale shadow of the player who caused a buzz everytime he got the ball.

There is not one crumb of comfort to be taken from tonight at all. I cannot see how we are going to get a win.

I started the thread by mentioning disappearing faces in the Shed. I fear mine may soon be one, which hurts as I have followed Salford since first seeing them as a 9 year old in 1973. (What must the greats of that side think?) I am rapidly losing the faith.

I dont think JW has got the balls to sack him, will cost him money, we cant get relegated so he'll probably think whats the point?

The point is that if we finish bottom without a win and with gates of 2,000 there is obviously no demand for RL here. As it seems 1 x NL club is GUARANTEED to enter the next Franchise then clubs will look no further than the weakest link and that would spell the end for our club - Stadium or No Stadium.

JAW has a huge decision to make in the next week. Can he come to an amicable settlement and find 2 new likely lads who will play thekind of RL we all want them to play or does he stick with SM and see the gradual decline in standards. I'm fairly sure that SM will not walk away without a decent Golden Handshake.

Step forward Alan Hunte and Mark Lee