Although, if living in one of the worst cities in the World was part of the deal, most clubs would turn it down without any thought.

I dont actually come from Hull,but being one of the worst cities in the world,is far from the truth.It has its bad spots,as anywhere else,but it has its good parts too.No need for cheap shots like that. I realise you live in paradise in Greater Manchester,although your location seems to refute that.

Cheap shot? I was deadly serious.

There seems to be a reasonable negative correlation between 'desirable' areas to live and RL crowds in that the towns/cities with good attendances are not places I'd much want to live (Hull, Bradford, etc).

Conversely, some of the worst attended clubs of the SL era have been situated in places I'd much rather live (Manchester, London, Paris, Cardiff).

Perhaps it's about better areas having more alternative entertainment, with worse areas having nowt to do but watch RL? The only exception that instantly springs to mind is Leeds.

And, back to my original point, I'd take our mediocre crowds and living round here over better crowds and living in Hull everytime.

So, next time you begin crowing about how jealous other teams must be about your crowds, you might want to consider how little their fans would want to live in Hull - apparently even you don't want to?!

Quote: barton baird "You can take the pi$$ all you want.Fact is a few clubs wouldn`t mind having either of Hulls clubs "pass" sales.'" Assuming you're a KR fan, I'm glad we don't have your financial problems... www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugb ... 82250.html

Quote: barton baird "You can take the pi$$ all you want.Fact is a few clubs wouldn`t mind having either of Hulls clubs "pass" sales.'" Assuming you're a KR fan, I'm glad we don't have your financial problems... www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugb ... 82250.html

When was there a SL club in Manchester?

Perhaps what you are seeing is the gentrification of sport in general, moving from a working class pursuit, to a middle class hobby?

I'm sure BigPev will have a sociological view?

The Embourgeoisement Thesis!

Go on Pev, take the floor my learned friend.

Well, he/she is being rather contestable on the Turkey just before a game against Salford . (Generally a big give away if previous seasons are anything to go by.)

I predict a whole host of touchy KR fans replying to this...

In my finest words, Sky encouraging sports to copy the Yanks, and great rid of the great unwashed who laid down their lives for us to attend a sporting event with passion and emotion, to the Yanks version of sport which is priced to keep out the great unwashed and all crowds choreographed to keep viewers watching inbetween the adverts.
USA Sport = money making adventure with no real passion or emotion = what SKY want sanitised sporting events.

just spotted this on the BBC website

Hull remains the UK's car crime capital, insurers say

second year running, so is it safe to drive to Hull or go on the club coaches

I don`t recall crowing. I was making a statement. I did actually live in Hull ,but my job dictated otherwise.But hey, this is a rugby forum,not a geographical who can pee the highest.