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Quote: Chico "It's true. Work in that particular field, heard the Council stat and read it too (can't find it online — typical!). The only way Salford will see exponential growth in internet access, in my opinion, is in the same way that Africa's is rapidly rising

Be interested to see those stats - I still find it rather incredible <20% - nah!!

BUT even if true, are those in that category (i.e. without internet access, presumably because of economics) in the potential market for buying Salford kit anyway?

I'm sure the way forward has to be on-line and partnering with some organisation that can manage the order fulfillment, returns, stock etc etc that all have to be spot on to ensure good service and return cstomers.

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Looking to the future (and maybe in the current location) I'd develop the shop as a fan zone.

Have an area where you can purchase drinks, sit and talk RL and Salford.

You could have a terminal where the on line shop can be looked at, we already have an IT centre on site so a drop in centre there would be good.

Have photos of the favourite players on sale for a small amount I am sure there is a good local man who can take pictures. These can be sold for extra money if signed and more again if framed, small ones could be available for pocket money.

Birthday cards available to buy, again with computers a favourite player should be able to be produced with little outlay (depending on image rights)

T shirts as on the other thread.

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Quote: neil72 "but i aint an expert when it comes to marketing just an opinion'"


From what youve written on here so far to date Id say the only thing youre an expert in is whingeing. Youre bl00dy brilliant at that.

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Quote: BartonFlyer "Be interested to see those stats - I still find it rather incredible <20% - nah!!'"


It's true, believe me.

Quote: BartonFlyer "BUT even if true, are those in that category (i.e. without internet access, presumably because of economics) in the potential market for buying Salford kit anyway?'"


Well you're probably right here and as the demographic of this forum's members suggests, we have many supporters who live outside the Salford boundaries and much further afield. Indeed, especially given our intended catchment area, Salford could do with an online shop. It's just not going to be the goose that lays the golden egg.

There's no real excuse for not stocking products that are not time-sensitive, such as baby grows, bibs etc, because the design should stay the same. A Salford City Reds bib today should look exactly the same as a Salford City Reds bib ten years from now.

If speculating on the potential sales of a time-limited product (i.e. replica shirts, polos etc) is a problem, and the margins are too small to get this figure too wrong, then one way to go is to have it available in small quantities that will [idefinitely[/i sell, then make them available thereafter on a pre-order basis. This would inevitably mean the product wouldn't be available to you for a few weeks, but at least you would be able to purchase it. However, this wouldn't stop people moaning; it'd probably cause more whinging.

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Quote: Chico "the design should stay the same. A Salford City Reds bib today should look exactly the same as a Salford City Reds bib ten years from now.'"


[ishould[/i being the operative word...







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Quote: The optimist "Id go to forever reds and say

"Right what do the fans want", i wouldnt go all firmed up with Tarry and co behind me id go and say "im a fan, your a fan what do we want and what would we buy"'"


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Anyway... As TC has pointed out, the FC model is probably the best idea for a club of our size to get things going in the right direction again. No need to have anything fancy in there, just a basic shop filled with the basic standard items (shirts, scarves, pin badges etc.) and then other items based on fans' suggestions. Supporters want baby stuff? Get it in the shop. Supporters want t-shirts with different players on? Get them in the shop. Have an online shop to compliment it and job's a good 'un.

There are places out there that will let you do a minimum order of 50 items, maybe less, if the club knew how to look in the right place. I know someone who runs a company supplying merchandise to non-league football clubs and the minimum orders are usually between 50 and 200. It's not poor stuff quality stuff, either.

Then you've got tshirtsunited.co.uk - they print t-shirts to order, rather than holding stock. You still get them within a few days. How hard can it be for a club like Salford to get something up and running when both a non-league football club (with only two members of paid staff supported by a load of volunteers, by the way...) and an online company set up by a few United fans who didn't really know what they were doing can run something so successfully.

There's things that the club currently think are pointless that would sell more than they realise. Baby stuff being one, pin badges another. A new badge design every so often would sell. If people knew about it, as well.

Get stuff in that people want and market the hell out of it. It works.

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Quote: GT "Then you've got tshirtsunited.co.uk - they print t-shirts to order, rather than holding stock. You still get them within a few days. How hard can it be for a club like Salford to get something up and running when both a non-league football club'"


Quite easy. Applique Apparel on Tib Street, for example, can bill your account every 30 days — so in essence, you can sell a design and get it made up before that period of time. Obviously this model makes the t-shirts more expensive because you don't benefit from economies of scale; but even with a decent profit margin on top, you could easily crack them out at £15 a pop. Reasonable?

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More kids items. These should be non time sensetive and therefore it would take away the excuse of minimum orders. as it would not matter if they were not all sold this season as they could be carried over. The shop should ALWAYS be fully stocked with all of the items in offer. I have recently bought items that they are selling off cheap in the on ground shop becasue they haven't sold. These firstly didn't need to be "sold off" as they wouldn't date and the reason they haven't sold is that they were not on display in the shop. They were kids items (although they bury my kids as they don't do the smaller sizes) and I have asked on a number of occasions about kids things and have been told they don't have them. The reason I was given was that there is no demand, which is strange because I know of several others who have asked the same question and I am sure there are more. I think this would constitute demand.

On the whole the shop needs to be much more professionally run. I am currently looking for work. Giz a job. I'll do it.

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Quote: GT "Firmed up?
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Quote: Chico "Quite easy. Applique Apparel on Tib Street, for example, can bill your account every 30 days — so in essence, you can sell a design and get it made up before that period of time. Obviously this model makes the t-shirts more expensive because you don't benefit from economies of scale; but even with a decent profit margin on top, you could easily crack them out at £15 a pop. Reasonable?'"


Very reasonable. I don't think anyone would argue with that price.

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Why do the baby items need the badge, simple Salford Reds would be as effective, or I'm an Orginal Red Devil?

I's also make one day per month a player's day when young fans can meet their heros. make it early evening so no problem about school.

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I tend to think internet is very important - maybe using E-Bay.

However I looked at Rochdale AFC were offering - not a dissimilar market:
replica kit
training t-shirts etc
legends and other t-shirts, rain gear, and a jumper with the logo
clock, curtains, pennants, a "buddy", tie, torch keyring, gift voucher,
baby dale wear - including towels, bibs, suits, tiny replica kits, v small t-shirts

Ideas?

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Quote: Red Willow "Why do the baby items need the badge, simple Salford Reds would be as effective, or I'm an Orginal Red Devil?'"


Because Salford's branding should be on [ieverything[/i they produce.

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