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| Quote: neil72 "The club have no idea when it comes to marketing and it wont look good on the franchise if we need to sell to sustain the club. There is no attraction to support a club that sells its best youngsters to survive. Also where is all the marketing gone on the stadium. That again i say aint going to happen. I have had a season ticket for 19 years now and to be honest we are going back to the dark ages. From what i have seen over the last three years i will no longer pump money into a club that dont care about there fans and decieve you at every turn. And as for the club shop its been crap for god knows how long.'"
says it all mate
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| The definition of supply and demand surely is if somebody wants to buy something then there is a demand a nd therefore the club should supply it. Therefore when I'm stood in the club shop asking for a given item and i'm told there is no call for it?????? Er reality check there is no call for an item that I am stood there actually asking you for... isn't that a contradiction in terms?
Secondly have you ever heard the phrase speculate to accumulate. If you don't offer any items for sale then you can't make any money on them. I am looking for stuff for my 2 year old son. Redgunner wanted something for his 2 year old grandson (not the same child by the way) my sister wants stuff for her 1 year old. Is there a demand pattern emerging here?
FFS it's not rocket science. When my dad worked at the club he set up a caravan on Salford precinct selling merchandise and that did quite nicely until they bought the house on Kennedy Rd to set up this super duper new shop that now has nothing in it. Stop making excuses for them... they are poor on this and need new ideas.
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| Quote: red13pjb "
Secondly have you ever heard the phrase speculate to accumulate. If you don't offer any items for sale then you can't make any money on them. I am looking for stuff for my 2 year old son. Redgunner wanted something for his 2 year old grandson (not the same child by the way) my sister wants stuff for her 1 year old. Is there a demand pattern emerging here?
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Several people wanted stuff for PIPO's son, I wanted stuff for my 3 month old cousin in Canada. However - playing devils advocate - you need money in the first place to speculate to accumulate, and I'll bet the profit margins are small on the type of goods mentioned (although you can't put a price on keeping customers happy).
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| Exactly and these kids are the future supporters. Look at what other clubs have got. Are we really that badly off that we can't push it a little bit more
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| I'm hopeful a few bib sales will offset this tragic news
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| "Secondly have you ever heard the phrase speculate to accumulate"
You used to run RBS and Northern Rock
and I want my ÂŁ5.
Look at our average home attendance and see if this is sufficient for a realistic strategy based on the above comments. I realise more can be done but there is another phrase:
"Cut your clothes according to your cloth."
A better shop - agree but only that.
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| There ain't half been some written on here recently. Why does everything have to be so extreme?
They did used to sell baby clothes in the shop. Now I haven't asked anybody but my guess is they didn't call a merchandising meeting and say "we're making massive profits on this baby stuff with people queuing round the corner for it so let's not bother selling it anymore".
If they only sell a few a year (and can therefore only order a few) it would be really expensive to have them made and so hard (if not impossible) to make a profit. You have to have something in the bank to speculate with for red13pjb's MBA level business analysis to work
I find it frustrating that everything I buy for my son from the shop is too big for him (and he's a big 3 year old) but I don't for one minute think that the club should be slagged off for making what amounts to a sensible business decision, we're not in a position to lose money in the shop
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| Quote: RedUnderTheBed "There ain't half been some poop written on here recently. Why does everything have to be so extreme?
They did used to sell baby clothes in the shop. Now I haven't asked anybody but my guess is they didn't call a merchandising meeting and say "we're making massive profits on this baby stuff with people queuing round the corner for it so let's not bother selling it anymore".
If they only sell a few a year (and can therefore only order a few) it would be really expensive to have them made and so hard (if not impossible) to make a profit. You have to have something in the bank to speculate with for red13pjb's MBA level business analysis to work
I find it frustrating that everything I buy for my son from the shop is too big for him (and he's a big 3 year old) but I don't for one minute think that the club should be slagged off for making what amounts to a sensible business decision, we're not in a position to lose money in the shop'"
At last!!!!! someone talking sense.
Its down to ordering minimum orders from suppliers & we are not like Hull's, Bradfords or Wigans fans(for e.g.) who have good/great followings & no man u's in their area's to distract from their merchandise, so where the above clubs can probably shift a minimum order of bibs/babygro's etc in a matter of months, we can't & we are not in the financial position to have stock just lying around.
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| I always thought we missed a trick with the t shirts.
Did the shop still have the machine to add names and numbers?
If so why don't they order plain tees then add have a limited number of designs that can go on any shirt/
Same with Bibs etc, transfers can be designed easily in this computer age.
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| Quote: Red Willow "I always thought we missed a trick with the t shirts.
Did the shop still have the machine to add names and numbers?
Yes they do as they put chris charles and no 13 on my shirt but it took 2 days as the kit man has first use on it, so that might be a non starter at the moment.
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| Quote: Red Willow "Same with Bibs etc, transfers can be designed easily in this computer age.'"
Its not done though the computer its a big iron pressing thing.
As regards the shop i just wish you could "rent" DVD's of matches for a small price, perhaps have a "season ticket" thing where you sign up and you pay say ÂŁ50 to join and perhaps ÂŁ5 per DVD with a ÂŁ10 deposit, lose or damange the DVD you lose the ÂŁ10.
Lose 3 dvd's you are banned
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| Quote: The optimist "Its not done though the computer its a big iron pressing thing.
As regards the shop i just wish you could "rent" DVD's of matches for a small price, perhaps have a "season ticket" thing where you sign up and you pay say ÂŁ50 to join and perhaps ÂŁ5 per DVD with a ÂŁ10 deposit, lose or damange the DVD you lose the ÂŁ10.
Lose 3 dvd's you are banned'"
You use the computer to make the transfer Rob, then use a big iron to "transfer it " You have seen them on the front at Blackpool
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| Quote: Red Willow "I always thought we missed a trick with the t shirts.
Did the shop still have the machine to add names and numbers?
If so why don't they order plain tees then add have a limited number of designs that can go on any shirt/
Same with Bibs etc, transfers can be designed easily in this computer age.'"
Regarding baby stuff. As I put above, there's probably little money in it, but it keeps customers happy and starts the brainwashing process early. There is rlthis sort of thingrl whereby you set up designs and they just get produced to order, the unit cost is more, the stock's not instantly available, but there's no upfront costs. The same could be applied to other merchandise - as I said, it's not a big money spinner, but it can provide some variety to keep the punters happy without the risk of bulk ordering.
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| The shop did stock baby gear, Bibs and babygrows and towelling robes! Trust me they were in stock! Whether these items saw the light of day is another thing. The shop has now become woeful but im afraid its down to the supporters, People talk about supply and demand and when the shop has supplied the customers just did not put their hand in their pocket..which ultimitly led to staff in shop being made surplus or hours being cut because there wasnt enough intrest, We had t-shirts, Salford branded ones, Malcolm alker, Luke robinson, red and white polos, Im a little devil t-shirts, Salford rugby hoodies, Pens, Mugs, Retro shirts, dvd's, Shirt printing, Framed pictures, Devil bears, Salford watches, books, car mats, mouse mats etc....
Since 2 years ago its gone downhill i mean when was the last time the online shop actually worked? but i think its an attitude thing ...When the stadium arrives heads will roll...by the way what is Adam Jude doing? because the marketing this year has been non existent in terms of seeing the match being advertised around salford!
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| (The following is not a dig at you by the way, in fact I don’t know who to blame but again it's not you! rl for what can be done, we could have gone further either with current players or past players!
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Those watches were cheap and nasty.
Car mats you had to be quick or you missed them, they sold did they get reordered? No!
I think we lets the kids down really badly, they are the fans of the future and if they can't have something to do with Salford they'll just get their parents to go into any sports shop and buy the a Utd/City/Liverpool/Chelsea shirt and we could lose them before we've even started. When a kid walks in a shop with it's parent they generally want to be bought something, go in our shop and what will they get???
We've been let down for years in this department and that's why people don't buy things, it's not something that's the fans are to blame for over the past couple of years, it's an area (Amongst many) that seriously needs to be looked at as I believe we're losing out on a lot of money by stocking either virtually nothing or cheap merchandise.
I've been all over this country watching the boys and most clubs even those in the lower leagues can put us to shame.
Sorry for being negative, I do try to avoid it especially on the eve of a match (the last match at that) but this is just one thing in a very, very long list of things that have really got not only on my nerves but a lot of people I speak with.
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