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Well done all above. The raised expectations after Hull, Huddersfield and Leeds have naturally led to deflation - but this is normal. It always feels like this when what you expect is not what you get. (Ask most married couples!)

Compare us to Oldham or Rochdale.
Both could be sleeping giants but are likely to be dead. Swinton is dependant on one or two people. We are in a far better shape.

If it means NL - then I hope to be still stood watching Salford. Yes I'm not confident about our future but compared to what I did expect this season - apart from the ground, I'm fine.

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Like a few people I’ve come away and said after some poor performances this season that I’ve had enough and I’m not going again. This said come the day of the match I just can’t help but change my mind. Take the Saints game a couple of weeks ago, I honestly thought we would get hammered to the point of humiliation and I know a few supporters who didn’t go for this reason and really regretted it afterwards.

Personally on the playing front I think the season has gone a little better than expected and the underlying problem for supporters is the stadium. I can imagine that many supporters feel that the delays are hindering our progress to become a bigger and more successful club. The growing frustration supporters are feeling is causing persistent negativity and criticism throughout all areas within the club.
It’s human nature that when we get promised something we expect it. The continual delays are causing some supporters to question the sincerity of the club and have become sceptical about whether a new ground will ever materialise.

On a positive there was hugely significant development last week that’s taken 5-6 years, The Port Salford planning approval that I personally believe is integral to Peel financing and building the new stadium.

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Quote: BartonFlyer "The stadium is IMHO the biggest disappointment of all - but down to a series of events entirely outside the control of the board, Salford Council or Peel Holdings - just in case anyone missed it there has been a global banking and finance crisis and funding for ANY capital projects is rather hard to come by.

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the latest warning from the RFL just shows that they have missed it, must be occupied with other attactions in Chapeltown. icon_lol.gif

I am confident now that Port Salford is on the way so is the ground.

Keep the Faith and BELIEVE

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Quote: RedRy "We wanted a franchise, we got one. We wanted a competitive team, (not league winning, not embarrassing) we got one. We wanted young British lads in our team; you see where I'm going with this?? Add to this the free home shirt/away shirt/whatever was in stock at the time and I personally don't feel cheated by the club at all.
I support Salford and attend matches because I choose to, simple as that, and I'm not arrogant enough to think that the club owe me anything or need to be 'interested in their fans'. As long as there is a team running out to represent Salford I will be going because I enjoy rugby league and love Salford, not because of some misguided (presumably American) notion that supporting a club is a two way street and I'm owed something from the club.
Although the doom MONGers keep complaining that the club is keeping them in the dark about the stadium (bless), I'm fairly confident that behind the scenes that JW and the rest are working their hardest to get it done. I really don't get all the negativity on here recently, have the school holidays started yet??'"


Excellent post RedRy it echo's my own and many other supporters views on the club and the season so far.

Am I at a low ebb? Well we could be occupying a better league position than we are but can anyone honestly say that they expected anything other than a hard time this year?

The club owes me nothing it has given me a lot over many years.

The fans, whatever they think, owe the directors a lot as they have put more than enough into the club over the last 20+ years.

With regards what news is coming out of the club regarding the stadium,it is always difficult to keep everyone happy at a time like this and if we are feeling a bit down, how must the people who must have put millions into the project feel?

I and my family will be renewing our season tickets for next season and I am telling the club now I don't want any free shirt or any freebies to entice me and the family to come to matches, we come as you do because we love the club.

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I agree about this season, I've been fairly happy on the whole beating Leeds away, saints at home, Huddersfield, Warrington and Bradford along with Hull in the CC. Its just really frustrating that we can't seem to build any momentum, but suppose that's the Salford way, build you up and then knock you down always has and always will be, but as I've said no complaints about this season on the playing side of things.

I think the thing most fans are getting frustrated about is what's going on behind the scenes with regards to the stadium etc. My family as many of you know have been season tickets holders, well forever, but they will not be getting one next season for the first time ever. The club seems to be going backward fans are staying away our attendances out p*ss poor and for me we're going backwards. Lets just enjoy what time we have left in super league eh? Because lets face it we've only got another 2 full seasons left icon_cry.gif

You can feel the negativity on match day, the shed is dead, fans are getting on players backs we're only just breaking the 3,000 barrier for home games it really really is poor, I used to love coming it used to be the highlight of my week, but no I just go out of habit I've even stopped turning up to forever reds meetings and the like and that's absolutely nothing to with shirl and the team because the work they do is great, but I've just not got the VIBE anymore. It doesn't feel right.

Sorry for my ramblings and I really hope something positive comes up sooner rather than later because people are losing interest and no one at the club seems to care. Depressed yet icon_wink.gif

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i've just slit my wrist. icon_exclaim.gif god the moaning on here is as bad as the weather.

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Quote: beezer "i've just slit my wrist.
Its true though.

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Quote: beezer "i've just slit my wrist.
Sorry Beezer, but we can only stay upbeat for so long, I'm nearly 21 and I've had enough all I've known is to be perfectly honest I don't know how you older folk cope icon_wink.gif. Don't get me wrong ive had some great times that I wouldn't swap for the world and the high of Salford winning a game is the biggest high ever nothing comes close, but enough is enough now something must change!!

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eh ! who are you calling old icon_lol.gif stick with it your still young.salford will be better and the stadium will be built . Keep the faith.....

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Quote: Ave It! " You can feel the negativity on match day, the shed is dead, fans are getting on players backs we're only just breaking the 3,000 barrier for home games it really really is poor, I used to love coming it used to be the highlight of my week, but no I just go out of habit I've even stopped turning up to forever reds meetings and the like and that's absolutely nothing to with shirl and the team because the work they do is great, but I've just not got the VIBE anymore. It doesn't feel right. '"


Do we have a Couch for Ave It to lye on so he can find out whats going on in his head? icon_wink.gif

Ive said it before Players change, Coaches change, people change, we change, adapting is the key, Salford itsnt the the team or the club i fell in love with imo is a shaddow of its former self for what it ment to me but in reality Salford City Reds has moved on, its more proffesional on and off the field, the players are technically better and we've got more more exposure with the trafford centre than we ever had before.

Dont look back and wish it was like the old days because life always moves forward and as soon as the club starts looking backwards at glory like swinton then we'll be in trouble.

Keep the faith and keep the chin up fella icon_biggrin.gif

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I'm sorry but for me we have been out and out lied to, the club knew the stadium was highly unlikely to come in one time (if at all).
And it appears now we are loseing two of the brilliant youngsters we have on the books.

Sorry to be a doom monger but with the news that the RFL are chaseing clubs over the state of thier stadiums seems to be the first warning shots across the bows of the unfashionable clubs with hovels and a clear indication that we will be kicked out soon as the bids for the next rounds start.

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Quote: RedRy " I'm fairly confident that behind the scenes that JW and the rest are working their hardest to get it done. I really don't get all the negativity on here recently, have the school holidays started yet??'"
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Lets hope you are right REDRY and that JW and the rest are working frantically behind the scences, because if they are not in two years time we WONT be in the superleague.

And my response to the person who doesnt believe the club needs a relationship with its fans cos its an Americanism is talking through the whole in his/her rugby ball.

Why do you think there is a website or that the club lets the 4eva reds use the club etc. I suggest you look at some branding literature, it may be American but its proven, ask one of the clubs marketing department if you dont believe me and if you dont need a relationship why are you posting on here when the only thing you have in common with people is your RELATIONSHIP with the club.

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Quote: Michigan red "..... we have been out and out lied to, the club knew the stadium was highly unlikely to come in one time (if at all).......'"


And just exactly how do you KNOW that - it may be your opinion - it's my opinion that the club have not lied to us - there have been a set of events that could not have been foreseen which has lead to the current position.

Please tell us just what the club should, or could, have done differently - if you were chairman or a director what would you do?

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Quote: Michigan red "I'm sorry but for me we have been out and out lied to, the club knew the stadium was highly unlikely to come in one time (if at all).'"

Daz how can you say that? Do you know that it won't be built thus making the club liars?

I know for certain that there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes involving the big players in the delivery of the stadium (Not construction at this stage obviously) and the RFL are well aware of this and are also involved.

I've said it before and I will again, until I'm told by the main people (Not people on an Internet forum) that it isn't happening then I have no real reason to believe it wont.

Anyone have any evidence to the contrary?

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beezer are you the person going to be building the stadium and what eveidence do you have that this is going to happen i aint heard out to convince me

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