great post Red Preacher. I agree with every single word and sentiment

If being passionate is not watching the game generally being pain$ in the , fooking about and then after not watching any of the play booing and abusing players then yes I wish they would stay away.
Maybe I am now a old fart but I can not ever remember being like that at a game when I was younger.

sorry PR, couldn't resist

and btw, I fully agree with you as well as Red Preacher, the behaviour of some people who attend games is nothing short of diabolical. Sadly, it's just a sign of the times and an indication of the total lack of respect for others in today's society as a whole.

I know this is salfords board and its your arguement but if you dont mind I'd like to stick my two penny worth in.

Your side isn't bad. Now I know its not what you want it to be but no side is who is on their first season back in the SL. Last year we finished last but got some great wins over Leeds and St's. Sound familiar????

This year we are on the fringes of the playoff and thats steady progress. Something that Salford is infinately capable of.

Slagging the players isnt the route and isnt something I think Salford fans have a reputation for. Your squad is there or thereabouts the 12th/13th best in the SL and is performing according to potential. It will get better with stability and a new ground attracting players. EXACTLY like us!

As for Myler - you cant blame him if big clubs are after him. He wants to be where his ambitions for trophies and rep selection are and that isnt Salford at the moment. I'd have felt the same if Westerman had gone.

I think he should do two more years at Salford where the expectation on him is lower but thats his choice. But he is a support type half back who needs a dominant pack to excel. Ratchford isnt, he is less of an organiser but is more off the cuff - hence thats why I think he is a better option for the pack Salford have and will have for the next few years.

Anyway, best of luck - ive got a vested interest in Salford now Im teaching PE round the corner now!

I think one of the main problems is that for some reason the way we played the last time we were promoted seemed better/ more commited. I may be wrong and I'm sure I am statistically, but I just don't remember us playing so poorly with what on paper seems a less talented team than what we have now. It may be that having won some games against teams like Saints, Leeds and the once mighty Bradford a large majority of our support have become to overly expectant.

As Red Preacher has said this team just aint good enough. Some people need to realise this.

As for booing Myler and others. I will never boo any player but lets face it they're all grown men if they can't take a bit of the rough side of the crowd then perhaps they're in the wrong job. If Myler thinks this is bad just wait till he's at wire and they start at him. Our boo boys are nothing in comparison to that lot. He should look on this as a learning environment

I think there's a clear distinction to be made between the complete bellends we all know who are currently following the club and other, genuine supporters who will vent every now and then. I'm not condoning the pint throwing, nor am I condoning anything out and out vile and personal, but people will get frustrated and every now and then people will say something. Jesus, when Cas got that scrum last night (right in front of where we were stood) I gave the officials a bit of a verbal, erm, 'bashing' shall we say. As long as it doesn't boil over then there's nothing wrong with making your feelings known to players/officials. You'd be happy to praise them with just as much gusto if things went well.

As I've said, I'm not condoning the behaviour of what is, in reality, a small section of our support. But don't use it as a reason to decry everyone who makes their feelings known.

agreed,dont think Myler had the best game,but with a small squad I think quite a few are carrying injuries.

No excuse for the abuse though,we all get frustrated,but we also know the s that follow us ,remember Wigan in the cup?

Having said that,if Myler does end up at Warrington,it wont be much different,just ask Matt King

Just can not believe people throwing beer when its £2.50 a pint.
Watched the game from the club and all i can say the type of rugby we are playing is driving people away, I know it was poor conditions last night but it was the same for both teams, we did not cope for some reason. Well Warrington next week, where the only thing that is certain some cretin in the crowd will have a DRUM.

Cheers Brian, you know what i mean. your good self with your daughter and Aussie son in law and grandkids know what i mean. you live and breath salford rugby. Please all fans lets relive the salfore spirit of old and support our great club.

I must admit that watching any team (any sport for that matter) can be very frustrating at times (just try following Stockport County week in and week out).

The times I've said "I'm not going to pay to watch that cr@p again!

It's natural to be disappointed when things go wrong.

I really believe that all the "hype" in the press and in RL/SL about young Myler has had a very unsettling effect on the team and throughout our club.

You only have to read some of the comments from our own fans on this very forum to realise that the "who needs Myler anyway" brigade are very bitter.

I suppose we are victims of our own success when it comes to bringing on great youngsters: and let's not forget that the progression of youth was part of the criteria for the franchise.

I like to think of Reds supporters being different from a lot of other supporters in loyalty when ex Reds players retun to The Willows, but some are being less than gracious when it comes to a fantastic young player that has yet to go anywhere.

I really believe that this is the first time in a very long time that SCR has been in this position. The only other time that we have lost "big name players" is when we have been relegated. It's totally different scenario.

It has NEVER been any different when it comes to the so called big clubs pitching in for youngsters with (apparent) talent.

I believe that we have to get into the whole mind set that SL requires and it's great for once not having to look down the barrel and try to avoid relegation

If he goes to Wire, ok - all the best RM, and if he stays ,it just leaves us with a fantastic "problem"

Who would be a coach?

Does anyone know the name of that touch judge who looks like ginger chuckle brother and is never off the TV ? Better still if anyone could send me an image. I'm working on an idea.

I agree that constant abuse of players is wrong and we need to stay behind them, but 20k to 100k a year for what 10 mins of abuse by a small minority once a week ....im in the wrong job

Butchersdad,I think it may be Tony Martin, from Oldham Referees Society

the players were all world beaters 2 weeks ago and the coach was doing a great job! fickle fans