Rugby clubs don't make profit! they are and always have been run like charities compared to a profit making business.

You really are very naive if you think a club like Salford can fight above it's weight and avoid debts with such a small fan base!

Tell me any top flight rugby league club that makes profit year after year and pays out it's shareholders? Eveything gets ploughed back into strengthening the team on and off the field.

This isn't premier league football just do the sums, every club has debts!

It's also common knowledge that the club boasted year on year how we were always in the black right up until approximately 4 - 5 years ago when they first went into the red under Wilko's tenure, given that then and now we were/are receiving more money than ever before?

Putting finances of the club to one side at the moment, Wilko is conspicuous in his silence at the current plight of the club don't you think?

I think its a case of the idiots running the village at the moment and to make change this has to come from the very top where the book stops. Somebody quite clearly isn't fulfilling their role and none of the fans are getting any answers which is leading to these topics coming up on here day in day out.

Action and answers is whats required here, not waiting on the assumption things will turn out alright. To anyone asking how do we do this and that and who else would take Wilko's mantle, dont ask me or other posters, ask the chairman what he plans to do as we're not responsible for whats gone wrong.

There was no notification in his post saying that the club was not in debt he said " it's also afact that most or all clubs are in debt"
so I took it from that he meant ours as well.

Look at the sponsorship that the Directors pay for, look at the support that The Willows fail to collect money for such as Corporate Meals etc, then ask what Wilkie does.

I'm sure Mrs Wilkinson would love it if someone with real money came in but look at Warrington it does not guarantee anything.

yes but look what he got for the ground

Accounts reveal Salford City Reds chairman sold ground for £2.35m
Crain's Manchester Business - ‎Mar 15, 2009‎
Godliman plans to build affordable homes and a health centre on the Willows site and is in early-stage talks with Salford City Council planners. ...

Who actually owned the ground, Mr Wilkinson personally or the football club?

I remember him buying The Willows nightclub back from Greenalls.

As for housing etc

We need to have a stadium first, do you think the 2m covers what he has put in over the years?

I think he owns it

If he has already sold the ground and planing for new housing is in early talks with the council then the new stadium must start soon

Financially - I don't think any of us knows? Depends what he's also taken out over the years.

Personally - Yes, it's a great return for 27 years of doing a hobby he's loved.

Finally - Was it his or the footballs club to sell for housing etc. etc. Wasn't there a covenant covering the use of the ground as well as the cricket club for sporting or leisure purposes only and has the covenanter granted the permission for the sale of said housing?

Wilkie recently had a heart bypass operation and my missus saw him the other day at Costco and she remarked that he appeared to have lost quite a bit of weight and looked ill, so maybe he is not well and having a rest from the club. Because if the way we are playing is making some of us fans ill how do you think it making the chairman feel.

He has lost weight pev without a doubt but thats been intentional. I think hes OK though at the moment - probably needs a week in Florida without worries.

my only comment on Wilky is that he needs to be more ruthless. He has developed the club at the heart of the community and it enjoys a reputation as a family club. Perhaps too much though. Perhaps a touch more steel and ruthlessness is needed. If that means sacrificing a little of the close knit famly spirit so be it if it brings results. As it stands whatever coach or players we have had in his reign we end up in the same position. As i said elsewhere Leeds were viewed aloof by the Salford camp in Florida. Perhaps they were just being focused and professional.

Lets not pretend and kid ourselves, Mr Wilko is a businessman first and foemost of course he has taken out of the club. And if thats true about the 2.35 million for the willows then its a disgrace that we are only operating with the team we have now. Simple business sense and the facts dont lie

TOP CLASS TEAM=MORE SUPPORT=MORE INCOME MERCHANDISE ETC

No Mr Wilky who no doubt makes a nice earner off salford, pockets the cash he is already super wadded why not try to move to the next level. He cares about the club yes but he would also sell immediately if abuyer came in no two ways about it