because of the game full coverage on bbc liverpool derrr

who was involved in the fistycuffs anyway? couldn't see properly from our end!

it was adamson and clove with the fisty cuffs

Some positives last night, mind you we could not have got much worse?
Lots of unforced errors in the first half, poor kicking game by smith getting caught 3 times in the first half on the 5th when we needed to put the ball in their half to take the pressure off Nash knocked on twice on the first & second tackle.
Cashmere I thought was poor no conviction going forward although the same cannot be said of Big Phil who continually made an inpact with his strong running.
Second half we used the ball better, played out our set of six better, I thought Robbie Paul played well directing the play, strong running throughout the game by Swain, Adamson, nice try by young Thornley.
Negitives, Ratchford wasted out wide, Smith clearly lacks confidence, Littler just no good enough for Super League but he works hard.

Finally very poor turn out by Salford fans although I can understand why.

i thought that was a good turn out last night seeing as we had been having all the negativity on here.

It was a more positive performance, especially considering that we're now missing White, Talau, Myler and Wilshere. Apart from a couple of lapses in concentration that led to some simple tries, the defensive effort was better.

I thought we looked good when we moved the ball about a bit in the opening 15-20 minutes but we're still too slow in doing what we want to do meaning teams can get their defence back into position before we get the ball wide. We seemed to revert back to 5 drives and a kick after conceding a couple of tries and then just started gifting position to Saints early in the tackle count; failing to find touch from a penalty, Alker kicking out on the full from the optional restart and Nash knocking on twice in a row I think.

Fitzy performed a lot better than last week and his positioning in general was better and he was looking for the ball in attack, although he did let a couple of high kicks bounce again.

Smith's kicking game improved but I don't know if that could just be attributed to the weather rather than technique as I think that it was a little windy out there.

Big Phil has looked our best player so far this year - I thought he didn't have too good a second half of the season last year but he seems to have slimmed a little and he's making a lot of metres.

Our turnout wasn't great but we were in good voice for the majority of the game. Saints fans seemed disinterested - they weren't even complaining about forward passes and offsides and I think they made more noise when someone caught the ball in the half time challenge than they did when someone scored a try.

I dread to think what you would call a bad turnout then - nobody turning up!


Credit to the fans who did come over they were very vocal throughout the game!

Some of us are struggling to get to grips with our own team at the moment and also we're finding the slower rucks are having a dampening effect, making the matches overall less exciting than in previous seasons. But apart from that, Saints fans are often silent for long stretches at home games. Only when things really heat up (either due to biff or pressure or tries or general drama!) do the Saints fans get going. In the Warrington match, for instance, we were quiet until the first try, after which we wouldn't shut up. It's a strange thing, but that's how it is.

Actually, I thought your turnout was pretty good and your fans made lots of noise. It was nice to see your guys back again!

last 3 seasons done nothing but crap kicks from the play the ball two 40-20 do not make a consistent kicker. he captain he can do what he likes cant he.

Do you realise how ridiculus that sounds!

Two 40-20s out of say 20 attempts in five games yeh great return

That's a more sensible outlook than the replies I've been getting on RedVee... Half a brain would be an improvement for some on there.

A Brian Noble team guilty of lying on in the tackle??? No way!!!

RedVee is hardcore.

That means there is a contingent who post who think Saints can do no wrong ever and that no club, fans, coach, chairman or indeed set of toilets is as good as the Saints version. They get on my nerves sometimes.

However, there are also some who are quite sane, reasonable and normal. Honest!