i give up, ok the team are all at war with each other like school children, and they dont want to play with him or him or him, oh yeh and they dont like the teacher too...

Given they are full-time professionals they should be above any off-field dispute when it comes to the on-field side of their job
Teddy Sheringham & Andrew Cole were said to not talk off the field but it hardly showed as part of United's forward partnerships circa 1999

I can't believe for one minute that people believe there aren't any issues around the dressing room with regards to what happened in Florida. I don't buy all this talk about everyone being water tight and as close as ever in the dressing room.... it doesn't work like that when you have a fallout with somebody... never mind the kind of fallouts that happened in Florida with a bunch of tough RL players. The club and players have papered over a lot of cracks over the past few weeks with talk about how it's all forgotten.... I for one am not buying it. There are small cliques forming in the dressing room.... and not the togetherness they are having us believe.

This isn't the only reason we look so poor.... tactically.... we look inept... so we can't solely blame Florida. Point is.... the backside fell out of this season before it even started, and it will probably be next season before we see any kind of improvement due to players being on contracts and having to stay put. I wouldn't be surprised to see one hell of a clearout at the end of the season.

Bingo.

A team with average players can make the playoffs. It's all about the coaching, preparation etc.

Yeah and we know our coach isn't up to that. The only way this team would prosper under McRae is with quality players.

That hits the nail on the head. There isn't a team, take an idiot not to realise that.

Now that I agree with. Sensible post mate.

black cat ,,, what do you know you only view salford scores though teletext or sky sports review ....

And what would you know WWW ............ you don't watch Super League do you????? Or so you say...... not got the courage of your convictions?????

I dont think you're that far off mate. I was speaking to a former player before the start of the season who played for us a number of times under Shaun Mc and he said this team and club will go nowhere whilst he is in charge. Amoungst other things "apparantly" the players have no trust, belief or pride in him as shown when we go behind (we rarely come back to win).

I didnt think to much of it at the time and thought it might be some bitterness, but the manner which we have started suggests there might be quite a bit of truth in it.

do you not think there may be a hint of sour grapes there.. i seem to remember when shaun was announced as our coach there was a lot of fans very pleased