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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "I have never once heard, read, seen a statement off Jaw regarding putting the club up for sale. I've heard in the past few years he is willing to step down IF, a younger enthusiastic businessman appeared on the scene to take over his reign. But he has never once put the club up for sale, so until he does we can't really take his comments seriously enough, we'll never know how much serious genuine interest is out there until he actually takes the club to market.'"
I recollect hearing the Chairman make the offer of letting the club go if the right person came along, I am sure that it was on GMR some time ago and he has repeated it at Forever Reds meetings when questioned by fans but, and I know that some people will not accept the fact,he does have the club at heart and would only sell if he felt that it would be for the benefit of the club.
This to my mind was in a way putting the club up for sale and there doesn't appear to have been any offers.
If any prospective buyers read this forum I am not surprised.
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| Well its his fault we're all divided and disillousioned
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| Quote: Red John "The marketing ideas you put in the rest of your post are the sort of things most of us would like to see. The point quoted above is why they don't happen. The club hasn't got much money and has chosen - correctly, in my opinion - to spend as much as it can on the squad in the hope that a winning team will bring fans in. The fact that it's still a relatively weak squad shows how little money the club has. The alternative that you seem to be suggesting - spend less on the squad and more on marketing - means, inevitably, a weaker squad, so you end up spending a lot of money marketing a team that's getting tonked every week (and, despite what you no doubt think, the current squad won't get tonked every week, only [imost[/i weeks). I doubt that any amount of marketing would bring people in to watch such an uncompetitive team.
So that's the problem. The club has no money to spend. You want to blame the chairman, the board, the CEO, whoever. For me, these are the people (the [ionly[/i people, unfortunately) who stand between us and oblivion, because they're having to put their own money in to keep the club afloat in the face of massive public indifference. It's the public indifference that's the problem
RedJohn i fully understand your views, but to be honest he hasn't attempted a single PR & Marketing stunt in many a year. It doesn't cost a fortune in his world does it.
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "RedJohn i fully understand your views, but to be honest he hasn't attempted a single PR & Marketing stunt in many a year. It doesn't cost a fortune in his world does it.'"
Many if the things you've suggested [ido[/i cost a fortune though, or at least a 'fortune' where Salford are concerned because they've virtually no money left for marketing. Even printing leaflets to hand out costs money. One of theh reasons for moving to the new stadium was to attract more money so they [ican[/i do some of the things you suggest. The money has to come from somewhere.
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| Quote: Red John "Many if the things you've suggested [ido[/i cost a fortune though, or at least a 'fortune' where Salford are concerned because they've virtually no money left for marketing. Even printing leaflets to hand out costs money. One of theh reasons for moving to the new stadium was to attract more money so they [ican[/i do some of the things you suggest. The money has to come from somewhere.'"
As DI has already explained, you can't just keep using REASONS to provide the reasons why things are the way they are...
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| Well i spend a lot of time in the warrington area, their community programme puts us to shame. I know the wire are backed heavily in wealth but even stretching back a dacade or so when they were averaging 4000 attendances, they were always marketing and promoting the club heavily so i don't buy into your views john. Their's no excuse refraining from promoting your product.
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| Quote: EX.SALF.UNI "As DI has already explained, you can't just keep using REASONS to provide the reasons why things are the way they are...'"
Well the love fest have brought Mr EX SALF PUNIVERSE as back up.
Talk about vendetta's
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "Well i spend a lot of time in the warrington area, their community programme puts us to shame. I know the wire are backed heavily in wealth but even stretching back a dacade or so when they were averaging 4000 attendances, they were always marketing and promoting the club heavily so i don't buy into your views john. Their's no excuse refraining from promoting your product.'"
They were marketing and promoting heavily and achieving 4k attendances? Another excellent point you've contradicted...
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "Well the love fest have brought Mr EX SALF PUNIVERSE as back up.
Talk about vendetta's'"
You fascinate me. I try to correct your ramblings but you have a weird habit of correcting yourself, then ignore your own reasoning.
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| At least they were out in the community, not like salford doing fookall.
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "At least they were out in the community, not like salford doing fookall.'"
Is that you throwing your hat in the ring as a community volunteer?
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| Quote: "I know we have JB working hard in the community'"
Quote: "At least they were out in the community, not like salford doing fookall'"
You can't beat DI for consistency
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "I have never once heard, read, seen a statement off Jaw regarding putting the club up for sale. I've heard in the past few years he is willing to step down IF, a younger enthusiastic businessman appeared on the scene to take over his reign. But he has never once put the club up for sale, so until he does we can't really take his comments seriously enough, we'll never know how much serious genuine interest is out there until he actually takes the club to market.'"
And there you have it folks. Because DI has never heard, read or seen a statement from JW (or an advertisement in the local Loot) it's not true.
You poor soul. You actually think the club would need to announce it "for sale" to ensure it found a buyer.... Dear me..how's McDonalds working out for you?
You really do live in a make believe dream world DI. I suspect your of average intelligence and therefore able to forge a few blind reasons (without proof) as to why all is not well.
When time and time again your arguments are exposed to be no better than your supposed support of the club itself. You really should not be allowed near a computer. You should be personally assed at your local mental health clinic if you believe the sale of a sporting entity is made public? Not until serious consideration has been given as to whether the interested party is suitable or serious in taking control of said sporting entity would it then be made public.
Getting back to you though. I question your alleged support of the club taking into consideration your constant DIvergent and opposite argumental mentality.
And if your support isn't In question then where just left with the conclusion that you have very little in the way of social face to face communication and or debate leading you here, posting unfounded, untrue, unsupportive billy b0llocks just to get attention. Being involved with club on a higher level than yourself really does show me just how far from the mark You actually are in so many ways.
They say knowledge is power. With that being the case DI. You my friend are the weakest link.....Goodbye.
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| Quote: Lyrad Red "SNIP.'"
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "Well i spend a lot of time in the warrington area, their community programme puts us to shame. I know the wire are backed heavily in wealth but even stretching back a dacade or so when they were averaging 4000 attendances, they were always marketing and promoting the club heavily so i don't buy into your views john. Their's no excuse refraining from promoting your product.'"
Again, I don't think you're being fair there. Unless you're talking about giving away free tickets (which Salford have tried) then the things Warrington were doing will have cost money, and Salford haven't got any so can't do the same. Simon Moran bought the club about a decade ago, and I guess the apparent increase in marketing would have been financed by him. Salford need a Simon Moran, but we haven't got one (yet).
Quote: Dantes Inferno "At least they were out in the community, not like salford doing fookall.'"
But they aren't 'doing fookall'. By your own admission
It's all down to money.
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