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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "Do I qualify for both of those?
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| Quote: charlie caroli "From what we have been told Gareth Hock WILL definitely play against Salford in the Cup ,that's 100%certain ,no matter what the Doc says , but Range won't be playing .Charlie knows.
From a legal point of view (and please note IANAL !!) I would guess that the agreement that Hock will not play against Salford is a clause in his settlement agreement to leave Salford.
So if he does play then he, and not Leigh would be breaking that agreement. Being a civil matter then Salford's only recourse would be to sue him personally. Whether that would be just for recovery of the amount he got paid to go or whether there might be further damages might then possibly depend on who wins the game? Were Leigh to win then we might argue that the future income of a cup run has been lost and Mr H owes that to Salford?
Pure conjecture on my part - but interesting times ahead possibly
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[quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]: |
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| Slightly disappointed that we've picked up so many injuries over Easter and subsequent suspensions. Chase and Hauraki will 100% miss the Leigh game, then we will have to wait and see on the fitness of Paterson, J.Griffin and Lee.
Would have been nice to spank them with a full-team out.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Slightly disappointed that we've picked up so many injuries over Easter and subsequent suspensions. Chase and Hauraki will 100% miss the Leigh game, then we will have to wait and see on the fitness of Paterson, J.Griffin and Lee.
Would have been nice to spank them with a full-team out.'"
Surely better to spank us with a depleted team then, even though the sum total of which is far greater than ours
Tickets flying out at Leigh, hope you guys are doing the same - a 7k gate would look brilliant on TV and hopefully the teams serve up a feast of RL with the ref unnoticed by both sets
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[quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]: |
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| Quote: maurice "Surely better to spank us with a depleted team then, even though the sum total of which is far greater than ours
Quite true Maurice, it just evens things up and makes for an even closer game.
I was told we had sold 1,000 tickets as of yesterday so half of our 2,000 allocation gone with 2 weeks to go. You can expect a minimum of 1,500 from Salford.
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| Quote: charlie caroli "From what we have been told Gareth Hock WILL definitely play against Salford in the Cup ,that's 100%certain ,no matter what the Doc says , but Range won't be playing .Charlie knows.
I'm sure Leigh are doing their upmost to persuade Hock to play. Fair enough, why wouldn't they? It's Hock who will be paying the financial damages not Leigh.
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| If it's correct that Hock would be personally liable for any financial damages, from his past behaviour, he would not give a tinker's dam. Even if he injured a player and was prosecuted for that, I think he'll continue in that Hock way.
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| Hock wont lose a penny, as Beaumont will no doubt agree to cover whatever costs he incurs through legal proceedings. I don't think the money matters to Marwan, it's more about the respect of an agreement that Gaz made. After all, Marwan did nothing but support Gaz 100% through his exclusion from the England squad the day before our opening game and his 9 game ban for striking a referee.
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| Quote: BartonFlyer "Quote: BartonFlyer "From what we have been told Gareth Hock WILL definitely play against Salford in the Cup ,that's 100%certain ,no matter what the Doc says , but Range won't be playing .Charlie knows.
From a legal point of view (and please note IANAL !!) I would guess that the agreement that Hock will not play against Salford is a clause in his settlement agreement to leave Salford.
So if he does play then he, and not Leigh would be breaking that agreement. Being a civil matter then Salford's only recourse would be to sue him personally. Whether that would be just for recovery of the amount he got paid to go or whether there might be further damages might then possibly depend on who wins the game? Were Leigh to win then we might argue that the future income of a cup run has been lost and Mr H owes that to Salford?
Pure conjecture on my part - but interesting times ahead possibly
Where's the Cas legal eagle when you need him?
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| All I know is what I've been told ,I know NOWT about the Legal side of the agreement or what it states ,I respect Marwan but feel he is being a tad pedantic by this Clause however I believe what I have been told, it will be very interesting to see the outcome.
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| Well as every Leyther knows I worked in the Attorney Generals Office during the last war.
Hock will play against Salford in the match a week Saturday and Marwan will not give a monkeys.
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| Quote: salfordlad "Well as every Leyther knows I worked in the Attorney Generals Office during the last war.
Hock will play against Salford in the match a week Saturday and Marwan will not give a monkeys.'"
Which side where you on?
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| As both Salford and Leigh are claiming the rights in this (and Leigh citing that Chelsea incident where an ex-goalie played despite a similar clause), it's no wonder RL HQ are taking legal advice. The only winner will be the solicitor's wallets.
Of course, we have the Leeds match before and chances of further disciplinary matters. Not that I would ever think of any bias in RL HQ re Salford.
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| I am a huge Koukash fan, but in the past months he has targeted Brierley, a friendly was cancelled, announced Hock to Leigh when the press conference was called the following day, and announcing Hock wont play after the draw. I think that's driving current events, which is a shame.
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