well whats wrong with an english coach in the mould of, Dave Clark? why do we have to keep recruiting aussies all the time its detrimental to the english game, we have a quota limit on players why not on coaches?

who was the last decent aussie coach we had?

For me I'm very surprised that John Stankevitch hasn't been mentioned, he seems to have done a qaulity job at Rochdale and is the age where he still has a link to many of the players of the day. Think he shows some real potential.
Though personally I'd be surprised if Compton hasn't applied and if he indeed has I think his name will already be top of the pile.

But on the other hand, some prominant English coaches have done their apprenticeships under the tenure of Aussie coaches. Noble under Matt Elliot. Kear under under Stuart Raper and McRae.

Look, I see your point regarding the benefits of producing English coaches. But, for me, the whole academy system needs a drastic overhaul over here. That's right from the very bottom at under 8's level, upto first grade. We simply don't produce the goods in comparison to the Aus game where coaches, players and countless other members of staff involved in the Aus game are churned out. In comparison, we're fairly amateurish...

But, to simply remove or further restrict the numbers od Australian imports would be going too far. What I'd like to see is a change in philosophy from the RFL in which we actively learn from the Australian system and their produce and create an evolved version of that and them.

Of course, my view here and many more I could put out there are complete idealism and simply not going to happen for a multitude of reasons.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I still think McRae has something to offer. For the first time he'll have a decent set of players working for him. If they produce the goods and make the play-offs, I'd say the coach has achieved his objective.

In the last two years, all things considered, it could be argued that the teams of players we've had have over-achieved. The difference this year is that we have a squad that is probably worth 9th to 11th on paper. If they make the eight, bonus! A stepping stone to a higher position in 2012.

I could also ask, who was the last decent British coach we've had? Andy Gregory in 1997? Tis a long time ago when RL was a different game...

What you mean we have cleared all that deadwood to hopefully finish just one place higher ? you really think the new signings are that bad ?

Who knows he may have applied ( Stankevitch), Martin Crompton has been 'named ' as a possible. From the people mentioned, apart from Millward who has distanced himself , Phil Vievers has the best chance as he has worked in a similar capacity for at least two previous SL clubs.
Salford seem to be going for experience in the playing staff so it stands to reason they'll do likewise with the coaching vacancy.

I get what your trying to say kind of but not all of what you say adds up, for instance Crusaders had no team no kit no coach no ground and managed to finish the season in the eight, so seasoned pro's don't always need time to gel.

As for over achieving going into round 27 with the spoon hanging over us was hardly over achieving, we could have run in last with ease !! (remember the against column)

Better training facilities/Nutrition I would need evidence of that ? the top four but not the rest.

I think the 9 or so coming in are far better than the 9 or so leaving, massively in some cases, not to mention there is every likelihood of having one or more grand final winners and a challenge cup winner this year. I read a Warrington fans view on our squad which said with some luck and the right coaching (the difficult bit) we may even make the four. Now thats optomistic but there is no reason we can't run in at 6 or 7 and be competitive in every game and stand a chance of winning instead of wondering how many over the 50 we will take.

IMO of co .

I'd tell you that he was a fantastic player in a Saints shirt but as I "clearly know nothing" about a team overachieving that could have finished last on round 27, then said club maybe should have at least used all the money allocated from sky.

I suggest that you're not aware of how small the clubs budget for players has been in the last 2 years and you think I've accused you of knowing nothing at all? Wow!

Phil Veivers saints bioghttp://www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/home/viewpage.php?page_id



Veiver was the coach at Huddersfield for a couple of seasons, then assistant to Noble at Bradford and then Wigan.

Great guy and will do a good job for you.

*sorry link seems to have a mind of its own and opens on various players!!!!

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says towards the end of story Phil Vievers is going to be officially announced as other assistant coach working alongside Malcolm Alker. this week ..
That's leaves tomorrow then ...