Huddersfield. Hull K R , Warrington.....

you mean the HKR that are also 4 million + in debt inside 5 seasons ? , maybe Warrington that have had the benifit of having been gifted a stadium , and all the revenue that that has given them ? , Huddersfield ? , don't talk bollox , it took a Stadium , then relegation , then taking a massive chance on Tony Smith , and millions more than JW has put in , and they still can't get fans through the door unless they essentially let them in for free

Try again ?

Yeeehaaa - go Starbug!!

I take it your female. You act like one.

So you have nothing but praise for somebody that has tipped 2/3 times as much in as JW , yes they have increased gates , on ticket prices at a quarter of what they really should be

HKR have tipped in double what you have , and they actually have always had a dormant fan base waiting for top flight RL

Warrington have come a long way since they were getting 4,000 at Wilderspool 10 years ago , the catalyst for that was the new stadium , but they will make double out of that stadium compared to yourselves at Barton on similar gates , and no doubt mr Moran backs up everything they want to do

Still not a plethora of other examples is there ? , try football instead , or maybe RU

Are you the voice of a success we all know as LEIGH,please tell me how your club is so well run.

Football is a total different kettle of fish. Rugby union is too i imagine due to them having a lot more money pumped into their game than oursbut i don't take to much interest tbh, but i know the M4 corridor have good gates . Im not saying we should be winning trophys every year i just want salford to be competitive, and the crowds will arrive in tandom with a good PR structure.,


Bradford Bulls is a prime example in the 1990s up to about 5-6 years ago. Obviously Peter Deakin was the mastermind behind the bulls.

Sale Rugby Union. Was averaging 2500 at heywood road. Now average 8-9000 and will probably fill our stadium. Again Peter Deakin was the catalyst. A great PR in tandom with a competitive team equals success at the turnstiles .

It hasn't been , the people running it have made probably the very same mistakes that JW has , but they also were the people picking up the tab

So be critical by all means , but do it constructively , why do you think I spend lots of time on here , and other boards ? Because it gives me an insight into what other clubs are doing , both good and bad

If you cannot come up with workable alternatives , or ways that you can help to change things , all that criticism will do is damage your club

Marketing is the key , so if the club don't market themselves , find ways of you marketing the club , come up with sensible workable ideas , convince others of their value , get them to help you

Running a RL club is a thankless task , I've been there , there are many fans who would happily see you lose everything , and then still call you for it afterwards for not being rich enough

What does worry me is that just like Leigh , we had an opportunity when we moved into the LSV , we missed it , and I do think that Salford will miss there's as well

Well for once i agree with you,Marketing is the key,we dont have any,that is criminal in my eyes.All i am asking for is for JW to come out and tell us how it is,I`m not d about what huddersfield,warrington,so on so on,crowds are.

Watch this space, keep the thread alive

? What? Is that really a female thing to say? You really are a total toss pot

The problem you had was marketing the Willows would be almost impossible , just as we had Hilton Park , the opportunity is now

Apology accepted Black Cat.

Black cat where is my apology?