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[quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]: |
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With regards to your final point, Tony Puletua wasn't selected to play for the Club in a Salary Cap Relevant Match during the Salary Cap Year - or at least not for Salford (in 2015) he wasn't.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "With regards to your final point, Tony Puletua wasn't selected to play for the Club in a Salary Cap Relevant Match during the Salary Cap Year - or at least not for Salford (in 2015) he wasn't.'"
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A Club’s “Players” are the 25 Players registered with the Club and eligible to play in the Super League who have the highest Salary Cap Values at the time in question, whether or not they have played for the Club in a Salary Cap Relevant Match in the Salary Cap Year to that date, in addition to all other players at the club who will or do play in a Salary Cap Relevant Match.
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Presuming he was registered correctly (and I make that assumption based on the rfls involvement in the mediation) then the above is all that matters... |
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I don't think he was registered. There is a reason why during our injury crisis following the Easter period, he wasn't selected despite the fact we were short of props. I assume Hull KR must have registered him when he joined on loan?
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "I don't think he was registered. There is a reason why during our injury crisis following the Easter period, he wasn't selected despite the fact we were short of props. I assume Hull KR must have registered him when he joined on loan?'"
We're going off what the rfl publish as their procedures so my knowledge gets a little hazier, but didn't he sign a 2 year deal? Unless otherwise explicitly stated in a contract, the rfl automatically registers a player for the length of the contract (this is how teams can demand first refusal on players going to RU/ NRL).
While not a cast iron rule, a good rule of thumb is: did he have a squad number at the start of the year? |
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| wouldn't it be just great if we were screwed before the season started, just when we thought we got through all our problems. If we are and it is our fault ive had it.
And anyway what allegedly did it help us achieve 'f**k all' - oh sorry, a battle with relegation!!!Feckin Ridiculous  |
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Puletua wasnt registered as a player last season so wasnt counted in the 25 registered players eligible under the SC.
MK was asked on twitter if as a result of the Puletua court case was the club now under investigation by the RFL for breaches of the salary cap.He said no.
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The League shall maintain a register of Players and Free Agents ("the Register"icon_wink.gif and shall designate whether the Players are amateurs or professionals and if the latter whether they are Contract, Conditional Contract or Contract Expired Players (and, where applicable, Dual Registered). The League shall divide the Register into sub-sections which will represent each Club's list of registered Players ("Club Registers"icon_wink.gif and Free Agents.
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According to here: www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ua-9335931 he was training so he must have been registered. |
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The League shall maintain a register of Players and Free Agents ("the Register"icon_wink.gif and shall designate whether the Players are amateurs or professionals and if the latter whether they are Contract, Conditional Contract or Contract Expired Players (and, where applicable, Dual Registered). The League shall divide the Register into sub-sections which will represent each Club's list of registered Players ("Club Registers"icon_wink.gif and Free Agents.
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A Club shall not allow a Player to take part in any Club training or conditioning programme or to play for it in a Match, unless
According to here: www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ua-9335931 he was training so he must have been registered. | |
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| Quote: Rover105 "Is there any truth in the rumours of side payments regarding his time at Salford'"
You waited longer than expected but you have the oracle of doom and gloom all over this now. |
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That article clearly states that Salford simply couldnt accomodate him in the squad.Puletua said he had been training and watching games.Didnt say anywhere that he had been training with the squad as a registered player.I seem to remember at the time he was acting as the players welfare officer within the club.
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From what I gather Puletua can't have been registered last year as we the players that did play, and hence were definitely registered, took up our full non-fed quota.
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This is the proverbial can of worms.
Forget TP for a minute.
Let's assume the side payment scenario is correct,which it might not be.
One assumes that he wouldn't have been the only one and several would have been in the squad this year.
So the problem would exist without TP.
And I hope they have HMRC correctly sorted,m'lud,unless the player is responsible for his own tax.
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| Quote: JobsForTheWives "Puletua wasnt registered as a player last season so wasnt counted in the 25 registered players eligible under the SC.
MK was asked on twitter if as a result of the Puletua court case was the club now under investigation by the RFL for breaches of the salary cap.He said no.'"
Does anyone believe a word he says anymore though? I do agree though, I don't think he was registered hence why he wasn't given a chance during the injury/suspension crisis. |
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I think the "Can of Worms" is that the RFL probably realise that there would be a lot more clubs than Salford that would have questions to answer.
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These kind of payments will be very common, the only issue is there probably hasn't been a case where the club haven't paid up so it hasn't been disputed in public as with Puletua v Koukash.
We all wondered why we had a player like TP sat in the stands for most of the early to middle part of last season, I guess this goes someway to explaining why.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Does anyone believe a word he says anymore though?'"
I'll hold judgement until he releases the price of my reduced season ticket for next season. |
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