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| Haven't seen you on the union thread for a while Shark J. You mention history so I was wondering, do many of the Sharks supporters (still) follow Sale FC?
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| Yeah, quite a lot. A lot follow Manchester Rugby Club too. As a lot of people are aware, a lot of Union fans sort of have a local club and then Sale are their big club. One of the reasons why so many people are against the idea of a 3pm kick off on a Saturday is because they either play for an amateur club, follow one or have children who play for one. It's an ongoing argument between fans, some say we're separate clubs, others like myself just see us having different histories from the early 2000's when we became Sale Sharks and moved to Stockport. I'm pretty sure Pete Anglesea who took over temporarily last year and is still involved with us now, also manages Sale FC in some capacity. Our reserves still play at Heywood Road.
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| Understand your feelings shark j.
I am of the opinion that the stadium must accommodate RL & RU and there will be long term benefits for both clubs.
We have a lot to learn from the Sharks vis a vis Marketing , bums on seats so I see little downside in both clubs using the Stadium.
Its not our clubs decision anyway but if there was an Entrepreneur out there or a few like minded souls with money there could be an opportunity for a deal to buy BOTH clubs - now that would be a way forward & a way for Wilky & Kennedy to get out.
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| I'm not sure where/how Salford will do this learning from Sale abut marketing. Sale have already said that their administration base will be at Carrington, so it's not as if the two clubs' employees will be working side by side learning off each other. Sale's marketing bods will be (as they are now) in an office elsewhere doing their thing - the difference being, the team, fans and corporates will turn up at Barton every other week instead.
The potential plus for Salford would be that some of those corporates that turn up like the facilities and could maybe be interested in entertaining guests and a more entertaining spectacle. The downsides, apart from the cuckoo factor, would be the pitch issues - Shark J may find it a tedious comment, but did anyone see the state of the Headingley surface after a winter of union on it? If the pitch had to be relaid for undersoil heating or any other reason (I did hear a rumour, which may be BS, that as our pitch contains a proportion of synthetic fibre that isn't allowed in union) you would think it would have to be done in the growing season - i.e. summer. So that's disruption to our fixtures.
Can't Kennedy use his wealth to build a nice banqueting suite at Edgley Park?
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| Quote Chris Charles No1 Fan="Chris Charles No1 Fan"As i have said before, Take me home Willows road. Our club and history has been sold to the Super league Circus. A very sad day if it happens. If i bump into the Shiek, next match at Man City, i will beg him to save us from sharing our home (even though it now is not) with Yawnion.'"
Yeah, because that hasn't resulted in city selling their soul, either, has it? I look forward to the day when Salford fans can buy 'loyalty' points.
We need a businessman to buy the club, buy the ground and stick a large percentage of shares in the hands of Forever Reds so we can act as a proper supporter's trust and have a say in the club. Even a PLC structure with the bare minimum shareholding in supporter's hands would work. Long term stability of the club guaranteed and we can then look to build on it. Anything else just leaves us with an uncertain future and not knowing what happens when someone dies, retires or loses interest.
I'll keep dreaming.
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| Quote GT="GT"......We need a businessman to buy the club, buy the ground and stick a large percentage of shares in the hands of Forever Reds so we can act as a proper supporter's trust and have a say in the club. .......
I'll keep dreaming.'"
GT if a "businessman" bought the club he (or she) would be unlikely to then put control into a supporters trust.
If you really want that to happen and not just be a dream, then the only way is to convince a large number of people to put a (relatively) small amount of money into the trust - e.g. we just need 3,000 hard core SCR fans to put £1,000 each in an bingo there's £3 million quid - probably enough to buy a controlling interest in the club
So if we want to become the Barcelona of the north that's the way to do it!!
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| Quote BartonFlyer="BartonFlyer"GT if a "businessman" bought the club he (or she) would be unlikely to then put control into a supporters trust.'"
I know, that's why I said I'd keep dreaming.
Quote BartonFlyer="BartonFlyer"If you really want that to happen and not just be a dream, then the only way is to convince a large number of people to put a (relatively) small amount of money into the trust - e.g. we just need 3,000 hard core SCR fans to put £1,000 each in an bingo there's £3 million quid - probably enough to buy a controlling interest in the club
So if we want to become the Barcelona of the north that's the way to do it!!'"
Exactly, but the chances of that happening are remote. There's not enough people who could afford to do that, I'd certainly struggle. Something along the old Shareholders United model would be good, with the annual subscription buying a new set of shares each year with the chance to put a bit more cash in if possible. But if a Manchester United Supporters' Trust can't persuade enough people to put money in to help safeguard the club, then what chance does a Salford trust have?
Having said that, we could always try a Community Shares-esque scheme..
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| Quote Shark J="Shark J"
Quite a few Sale fans have already planned on going to your new ground to check it out. Some have also got free tickets through Real Radio and plan on checking a game out. '"
Was a guy in a Sale shirt stood near me on Saturday night - perhaps not the best weather in which to see the ground!
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| Quote GT="GT"Yeah, because that hasn't resulted in city selling their soul, either, has it? I look forward to the day when Salford fans can buy 'loyalty' points. :roll
I'll keep dreaming.'"
Seem to be struggling here mate as to where he sold Citys soul???? Not getting into a footy argument here, but the shiek have invested alot into the club, promoted the brand of MCFC around the world and seems to have invested in youth and the surrounding areas of Eastlands, more than what Swales, Berstien or Franny Leed did. Wont mention the Glaziers then or Martin Edwards  . Wouldnt mind him propmoting Salford round the world. Would you????
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| What makes everyone think Sales attendances will be 8000? Their fans may be unwilling to travel over here,then they would be back down to the few thousand they had before the move to Stockport!!!
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| Quote redballoon99="redballoon99"What makes everyone think Sales attendances will be 8000? Their fans may be unwilling to travel over here,then they would be back down to the few thousand they had before the move to Stockport!!!'"
The same reason as everyone with bigger attendances than ours: [ibetter[/i marketing.
Although, I once spotted an newspaper ad for Sale RU tickets and I didn't get any. Dunno if they put a trainee in charge for that campaign?
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| I couldn't give two hoots if Sale move in to be honest.... If the RL product is strong enough it will stand on it's own... if it's not... it won't.
The only thing that will destroy Salford RLFC is Salford RLFC and the people that run it... Not Sale.
I'm pretty sure people wouldn't be so worked up and upset about Sale if this club was in a healthy position and we were all confident about where we are heading. Fact is... we've been poorly run for years and people are finally starting to panic a little... and seeing Sale as a threat.
The people at the top of the club won't be worried either due to the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude.
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