but you had not been there before so it was a novelty, we have been there and back a number of times and with the team playing with no conviction why should us fans bother going away and paying £20 to get into what is a crap cold ground.

I lost all respect for McRae when he re-instated Alker as captain.

as a huddersfield fan,i know how these pastings hurt every week so you have my sympathy.
i dont really rate mcrae as a coach personally and was surprised salford brought him back when they did.
so whats the problem? is it just the fact that you are not ready for super league despite last season's relative success?

were do you live......sandals resort. if you could move salford it would,nt look out of place in iraq.

Can you get a new coach for next week please...and get the "new coach factor" for your cup game.

Iraq is nicer than Hull

Where you guys saying this last year when Salford won the championship grand final, finished league leaders and also won the northern rail cup.

I think not.

What you need to appreciate is that it is a huge step up from NL to SL.
Castleford found that out last year, and Hull KR before that, however they were patient with their coaches and its payed dividends in the long term.

You need to look at how the fellow promoted side are doing, and a quick look shows they havent won a game at all.

This year is not the time to criticize your coach, next year is the time to do so, if you are still getting thrashed.
With a further off season and recruitment, Salford should be able to strengthen their team. Players will also have learned of the fitness demands of Sl and should have put the extra effort in to ensure they can compete physically.

If you cant do the basics right then your in trouble.The players look shattered there is no confidence in the team or conviction to each other you only have to look at Alkers reaction to Wilsheres mistakes. Then you get the same old crap coming from Baron Greenbacks mouth! Its his team he coaches them he picked the players so if he cant give us the answers get someone in who will!

Actually, I'll think you'll find people were. No one's been impressed with McRae's standard of coaching and the team's playing style even last season at a lower level.

the difference is the players at Cas and HKR looked like they wanted to play, Salford do not look like that, there is no effort and we have signed second rate Aussies again, this has a knock on effect with the English lads, McRae was a very bad coach in Aus, infact some of our Aussie players who were here when he came had never heard of him, these players were quickly got rid off for McRae to bring in some of his players from aus, remember he won the wooden spoon two years on the trot over there, got the hat trick with us, then we were lucky in the NL and won despite his coaching. Heres to his fourth wooden spoon because with ordinary players he has to earn his crust and he can not do that.

And yet, as I think I've said on here before, with us McRae won silverware. That tells me it's your team, not you're coach that is the fundamental problem.

McRae was not the strongest defensive coach we have had and maybe defences are on top more often now so perhaps you could do with a greater defensive effort. However, the coach can be Mr Supremo Coacho yet if he's got a bunch of blokes who have no sense of being part of a team working towards a greater goal then he's on a hiding to nothing no matter what he does.

I know Cas and Hull KR have been cited before but Cas only won four games in their whole first season in SL and they had been here before too. Also, at the end of that season, they shipped 10 of that team out, recruited well (because they were now in a position to do so, being in receipt of greater funds as teams are in SL) and now look at where they are in the table. They've won more matches so far than they did the whole of last year. Hull KR aren't doing too badly either!

If you need to compare yourselves to anyone, compare like for like. Compare yourselves to Celtic and to the Cas of last year and Hull KR of the previous year because that is the realistic thing to do. Comparing your Salford, even with only a year (?) out of SL, to established SL sides is only going to lead you to disenchantment when to go down that road could mean you lose out on the better times when they come, which they will.

who did he take over from i bet there was a good team already in place how long was he there and when at hull did he not inherit a very good brian smith team dont think he lasted too long at them clubs did he not 5 years anyway in both jobs jointly maybe the problem is when he brings his own methods in it all goes wrong