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Quote: Burtons Forearm "Right my post was stupid.

Lets get this right. No one on this thread is defending Hock.

It looks a lot like that from what I've read!

He didn't try and drop his team mates in it..........why the f*ck mention them then, add to the speculation state that he was treat differently therefore suggesting they should get the same punishment. That's not dropping them in it..ok.

What they have released in the press is to try and stop the story getting out of hand. Gareth's helpful contribution to the cause...appears on telly claiming he's been unfairly treated and that his team mates have been up to something too.

Your angry at the management cause your player got sacked from the squad. You wouldn't care if it was Tomkins. The management (who I don't rate) have done nothing wrong and not hung anyone out to dry. Hock did this himself. Instead of taking his chance he considers no consequences of what he does.

He was a f**king embarressment at Craven Park last year. Ignored his teams needs and went after Dale Ferguson all second half and failed. Gave away 5 pens and could have been sent off three times at least. Kept gesturing to the crowd and lost the plot (not that he's ever had it for long).

As for Noble and Koukash's chances with him best of luck. Plenty have tried.

Like I posted scousers and Suarez.

One of us is blinded by their club loyalties. There's a lot of scousers with egg on their faces care of Suarez don't be wearing an omlette this time next year.

I've no doubt this will motivate Hock early in the next season like it did when he returned for Wigan but that didn't last.'"


He mentioned them because he was given an open and honest assessment to what went on, something England RL should have done when they decided to make the whole fiasco public. If you believe what they released was to try and stop the story getting out of hand then you are grossly deluded and they failed miserably. That pathetic statement caused a mass outbreak of accusations and speculation from many fans, with the majority incorrect in what they were assuming (i.e taking drugs and or fighting). Either release a full detail of events and present such speculation, whilst also giving no need for Gareth Hock to give his television interview or keep it internally and punish him privately thus causing absolutely no disruption to the squad.

Gareth Hock isnt our player yet and if you think I am angry because he has been removed from the squad then you obviously havent read any of my previous post. He deserved his punishment. As I have stated previously to you, I am angry at the way England management handled the whole thing. To suggest I wouldnt care if it was Tomkins is embarrasing on your part, I would be ten times more angry had it been Tomkins because he is our only real hope of beating the Aussies.

I dont understand what his performance at Craven Park has to do with it either. If anything that sounds like particularly poor management, if it was so obvious he was running around the field after Dale Ferguson and nearly got himself sent off 3 times why wasnt he taken off? I also note you refer to probably the most negative Gareth Hock moment you could think of and blatantly disregard all the good things he did on the pitch.

Its nothing like the Suarez incident either, he hasnt even played a game for us. There is also a difference between defending a racist and condeming the management of a national team who we believe handled a situation badly.

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It’s incredible how those falsely accusing Salford supporters of defending Hock don’t realise how prejudiced and partisan they appear towards discriminating Hock.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "He mentioned them because he was given an open and honest assessment to what went on, something England RL should have done when they decided to make the whole fiasco public. If you believe what they released was to try and stop the story getting out of hand then you are grossly deluded and they failed miserably. That pathetic statement caused a mass outbreak of accusations and speculation from many fans, with the majority incorrect in what they were assuming (i.e taking drugs and or fighting). Either release a full detail of events and present such speculation, whilst also giving no need for Gareth Hock to give his television interview or keep it internally and punish him privately thus causing absolutely no disruption to the squad.

Gareth Hock isnt our player yet and if you think I am angry because he has been removed from the squad then you obviously havent read any of my previous post. He deserved his punishment. As I have stated previously to you, I am angry at the way England management handled the whole thing. To suggest I wouldnt care if it was Tomkins is embarrasing on your part, I would be ten times more angry had it been Tomkins because he is our only real hope of beating the Aussies.

I dont understand what his performance at Craven Park has to do with it either. If anything that sounds like particularly poor management, if it was so obvious he was running around the field after Dale Ferguson and nearly got himself sent off 3 times why wasnt he taken off? I also note you refer to probably the most negative Gareth Hock moment you could think of and blatantly disregard all the good things he did on the pitch.

Its nothing like the Suarez incident either, he hasnt even played a game for us. There is also a difference between defending a racist and condeming the management of a national team who we believe handled a situation badly.'"


Jesus you've appeared all over these forums supporting Hock veiling it as critisism of the England management.

They made a statement saying he had been dropped for disciplinary reasons. Hock then goes public crying foul.

Why say he has an injury? It would be evident in days he hadn't and the rumors would be worse! Say it was for personal reasons and have the journalists digging around then speculating on that. Makes no sense. The management have nothing to answer for. They picked the oaf against many peoples opinion at the time why would they then scapegoat him. It makes NO sense. He broke the rules he should deal with it. Like i say if you seriously believe he missed a 10 minute warm down session your even more deluded than you appear.

His performance at craven Park was an insight into what he does in public imagine what he does out of the public eye. Why wasn't he taken off ask Denis Betts. I could suggest that the're scared of the coming hissy fit if they did. He certainly didn't seem to care Widnes were getting gubbed by 40 points and carried on his personal agenda.

Good luck with him.

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Quote: Burtons Forearm "
He didn't try and drop his team mates in it..........why the f*ck mention them then, add to the speculation state that he was treat differently therefore suggesting they should get the same punishment. That's not dropping them in it..ok.

What they have released in the press is to try and stop the story getting out of hand. Gareth's helpful contribution to the cause...appears on telly claiming he's been unfairly treated and that his team mates have been up to something too.

Your angry at the management cause your player got sacked from the squad. You wouldn't care if it was Tomkins. The management (who I don't rate) have done nothing wrong and not hung anyone out to dry. Hock did this himself. Instead of taking his chance he considers no consequences of what he does.

Like I posted scousers and Suarez.

One of us is blinded by their club loyalties. There's a lot of scousers with egg on their faces care of Suarez don't be wearing an omlette this time next year.

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It appears there is a 'grass' in the England camp who reported the matter.This may have been one of those who had been drinking - the motive is unclear.
The rumours started;one of those was started by a Bradford influenced individual.
The press release - on the Tuesday night,shortly after the rumours took hold - was a full 2 days after the incident was dealt with.
The press release should be dealt with by well-paid,responsible adults.What we got was a hatchet job on Gareth Hock.
He went onto television,while still in shock,to defend himself against the drug allegations made by those in the rugby league family,and England rugby league supporters.( These allegations were on the usual places;twitter,forums )
I am angry that the failure by possibly 6 members of a rugby league squad who failed to conform to an instruction have not been named,especially when the squad for the game against Australia has now been named.Their names should have been included in the press release with the addendum of either - they will be punished appropriately,or whatever their punishment will be,if any.
Gareth Hock has been victimised.
Taking your Scouse analogy further - the most senior,in terms of England caps and worldly-wise experience by going off to Australia,was one of the St Helen players in the last World Cup squad.There was the rumour of a split between Saints and Leeds players.His conduct on the pitch caused Leeds fans to chant a 'fatist' slur in his direction which our friends from Castleford wanted to result in a fine,as their club had been fined for a homophobic chant at a player.
I mention this only because his recent on-field misemeanours have included lathering himself in vaseline and biting a players ear yet because of this off-field incident Gareth Hock has had to endure even more reminding of not only an off-field regret but all of his on-field 'heat of the moment' incidents have been recalled by far too many people.
Gareth Hock has not lathered himself with vaseline or bitten a players ear but it seems he is the only transgressor who is never left alone for things which have happened some time ago.
Some of the pleasing comments have come from Dennis Betts with regard to Gareth Hock.
I hope to take some comfort from an Irishman (now deceased ),who played soccer nearby at Old Trafford.Never played in the final stages of a World Cup.Missed more training and more games than anyone cares to remember.He had far too much carnal knowledge.But he will always be remembered by what he did on the field.I am hoping Gareth Hock gives the Salford fans equally good memories by what he does on the field.
He has been badly let down by the brains department on this one.
I am sure he thanks you for your support.

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You people can't be helped!

Poor Gareth, in shock , scapegoated, another snitch in the camp. Jesus this is desperate.

Scousers and Suarez.

Why pick him and then scapegoat him......no sense.

Please don't ever compare Hock to George Best. Their relative abilities are universes apart. George was an appaling professional (finished at 26)and terrrible individual (wife beater, drunk driver, terrible father given numerous chances to address his alcoholism including someone elses liver etc etc. I'm a United fan commiting a sin here critisising Best) but an incredible player.
Hock appears a terrible professional but isn't in the same universe regarding ability compared to George Best

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