Olsi Krasniqi would be in the 17 for me, really impressed with him last season.

I think there will be some real competition for prop spots. We have several ambitious young props with potential and I'm sure they'll all be eager and working hard to nail down a place. It will be very interesting to see how this battle for selection unfolds. With Morley, Carvell and Sheen's himself a former prop to learn from, I'm sure they'll all be getting privileged tuition.

I see your point, before the Tompkins signing i'd of thought O'Brien or Lui would be the 2nd hooker as he's played this role for the cowboys however i've a sneaky feeling O'Brien could be utilized at Stand Off, Scrum half, hooker,Centre, and fullback so i think O'Brien must be picked at least as a substitute for his utility attributes. No other Salford player has this ability.

We've not signed O'Brien to be outside the 17

I suspect George Griffin will go well for us this year and surprise a few. Indeed, wouldn't it be good if other teams underestimated his impact!

I think of the 3 halves we have that Dobson is the one most at risk, O'Brien can cover a multitude of positions and Liu has the size to do likewise, Dobson is for me only a 7 and therefore more limited than the other options.

He's also made of biscuit, one good dunk and bits might fall off.

I'm a big George Griffin fan, considering he's only 23 given a couple of years of additional maturity, he could quite easily turn out to be a very good prop.

I also think Griffin will step-up this coming season. He showed glimpses towards the end of the season that he's got all the tools to be a really decent forward.

Going back to what 'RedEyes' said earlier in the thread about us not having any great players is just a ridiculous statement. We've potentially got the best two wingers in the league and as someone else mentioned our black line is huge for 2016.

I know I am not the only one who is worried about the experience levels of our pack but at least we have left room on the cap to bring the right player into the club if needs be. I would rather us be going into 2016 a little lighter in the pack with room to bring players in, than have an unbalanced dressing room and a player who is just happy to pick up a pay check.

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Ever the optimist that I am, that's not a bad looking team when you step back and look at it and think we will go well this season as long as we avoid injuries. I think the last couple of seasons with big names having been in the squad, some people will look at that line up and be really underwhelmed. Yes agree probably 1 experienced, no nonsense prop light but apart from that, it looks a well balanced team with good players scattered throughout.

We have to play to our strengths though to get the benefits. The last few years we have starved the wings of ball, particularly S'au but credit to the bloke, he has certainly put it in this off-season and if he gets those hands working to feed Carney, with Griffin providing some good balls to Vidot plus Evalds that is a very handy back line. Dobbo although injury prone would be my first choice 7 as his game brain is better than others. I think O'Brien will get more game time in halves with Lui if last years problems even remotely occur again. Krasniqi big plus from last season and well worthy of a spot in that line up, probably at the expense of a Walne and I am with others I would expect a big season from G. Griffin in the pack and expect will surprise a few.