FORUMS > Salford Red Devils > Simms Says Clubs Must Cut Cost |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 7498 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
1055_1445006780.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1055.gif |
|
| No I'm not. I'm just balancing out some of your guff. Remember what was going on in 2002 and some the operational crap Simms had to sort out from the hangover of the Harvey era. People forget that.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 1647 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2017 | Aug 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
cartoons/WB73.gif OUR DAY WILL COME:cartoons/WB73.gif |
|
| Quote: Chico "On the other side of the coin
and how many of them will be with next season?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 7498 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
1055_1445006780.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1055.gif |
|
| Quote: bryanthered "and how many of them will be with next season?'"
Because we haven't got a pot to p iss in. How is that Simms's fault? Look, I'm not a Simms apologist but some on here vilify him for seemingly doing nothing. Because his job role isn't defined he is seen as surplus, and some find evidence to back their argument on why he should go. But there is another side. You cannot deny he has also made some shrewd signings.
When it gets down to it, at some point the board felt they needed an eye and hear on the coaching staff. Probably because they were unaware of what was going on and were taken for a ride. Simms is that man. If it isn't Simms occupying that role, it would be someone else. You must admit it is telling that the club surmised the Chief Executive role was redundant and the Football Director was not.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 1642 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2015 | Apr 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Someday, somewhere, today’s empires are tomorrow’s ashes.: |
|
| Quote: Michigan red "
Odd that SJW got the consultancy firm in and they recommended getting rid of Tarry but not SS, maybe just maybe it's because he does what is required of him in a manner that befits someone of his experience and pay grade?'"
Are you seriously suggesting that some random bunch of independent management consultants knows better than the stellar array of managerial talent on this forum? I mean, [ireally[/i?
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4678 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Jun 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
18952_1309202725.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18952.jpg |
|
| With our lack of money for signings it is imperative that there is none of the wastage that we have seen in previous seasons during the upcoming off season. Whatever role Simms plays in that I will leave for others to decide.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 10390 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2018 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
All blocked - Go ahead punk make my day.:11969.jpg |
|
| Quote: Red John "Are you seriously suggesting that some random bunch of independent management consultants knows better than the stellar array of managerial talent on this forum? I mean, [ireally[/i?'"
I know I've just re read that and do I see how remiss it was of me to forget everyone on here is a fully qaullified know it all
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 6769 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2013 | Aug 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
icons39ad_files/4795-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg Holts Sweet Holts
Never Drink on an Empty Head
BIGPEV THE ONLY MAN TO GET A REAL INJURY AT THE STOOP:icons39ad_files/4795-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
|
| Quote: Michigan red "I know I've just re read that and do I see how remiss it was of me to forget everyone on here is a fully qaullified know it all
yes consider yourself told off
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 34 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2015 | Aug 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| As a long life passholder at HULL.F.C. i have looked at SALFORD and its ups and down in the past years. SIMMS got rid of KARL HARRISON when you were doing quite well. Since then the club has struggled. It seems that for some reason the 1st class coaches that you have had, did have problems with the management. I dont think things will alter until it changes.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 11532 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Jan 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
6248_1358341317.jpg [b:2akkj491]Jeb End Reds[/b:2akkj491]
[color=#FF0000:2akkj491][b:2akkj491][url=hhtp://www/foreverreds.co.uk/:2akkj491]SUPPORT FOREVER REDS - THE SALFORD CITY REDS SUPPORTERS' TRUST[/url:2akkj491][/b:2akkj491][/color:2akkj491]
[b:2akkj491][color=red:2akkj491]MUFC[/color:2akkj491] ~ FCUM ~ [color=red:2akkj491]SRLFC[/color:2akkj491] ~ LCCC[/b:2akkj491]
[url=http://undergreylancastrianskies.blogspot.com/:2akkj491]My Blog[/url:2akkj491] ~ [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/8580799@N06/:2akkj491]My Flickr[/url:2akkj491]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6248.jpg |
|
| Quote: monkshood "As a long life passholder at HULL.F.C. i have looked at SALFORD and its ups and down in the past years. SIMMS got rid of KARL HARRISON when you were doing quite well. Since then the club has struggled. It seems that for some reason the 1st class coaches that you have had, did have problems with the management. I dont think things will alter until it changes.'"
To be fair, Simms got rid of Harrison when we were on a very bad slump. Whether or not that was down to Harrison's coaching, the players turning or a combination of the two is up for debate, but we were struggling to hit the "highs" of the previous season.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 7498 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
1055_1445006780.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1055.gif |
|
| Quote: GT "To be fair, Simms got rid of Harrison when we were on a very bad slump.'"
Yes. Salford were taken to pieces at Catalans and the spectre of relegation loomed.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1114 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2015 | Aug 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Salary cap - you're havin a laugh.: |
|
| Yet he wouldn't get rid of his mate Mcrae when we were in an even worse slump?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 7498 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Oct 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
1055_1445006780.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1055.gif |
|
| Quote: Talent Spotter "Yet he wouldn't get rid of his mate Mcrae when we were in an even worse slump?'"
Because there was no relegation. Less pressure from upstairs.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 4918 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2016 | May 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
cartoons/WB35.gif :cartoons/WB35.gif |
|
| Are you sure Simms has the power to sack the coach, thought this was a board call.
Harrison had to go, he was outstanding the season we were relegated and our first season back in SL. Harrison however failed to adapt, look at the games we lost late in that first season and this poor form continued in the following season. I can remember standing at the Catalan game knowing we would go down. It was still early in the year but teams knew how to play us.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4678 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Jun 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
18952_1309202725.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18952.jpg |
|
| Quote: Chico "Because there was no relegation. Less pressure from upstairs.'"
Agree although would be interesting to know what role our director of football played in giving Mcrae a whopping 4+ year deal meaning that even if we had wanted to it was likely that we couldn't afford to pay him him off.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 4159 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2019 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
1602.jpg Sad preacher nailed upon the coloured door of time;
Insane teacher be there reminded of the rhyme.
There'll be no mutant enemy we shall certify;
Political ends, as sad remains, will die.:1602.jpg |
|
| As far as I know, and BF will be quick to remind me of any mistakes here, the granting of a contract and the assessmant of anyone's performance in their roles and duties are part of the reponsibility of the board of directors; they may delegate the actual task to someone charged with HR but the legal responsibility lies with the board.
Therefore the "firing and hiring" and "contact" decisions are fundamentally not Simms' remit. Conspiracy theories (and Mr Alker's book) do give a much more exciting picture but often fail to reflect the truth.
To also remind those for whom the past is always rosey: the period under Harrison was good for some of that season but we continually lost from May (I think) to the end of the season and then continually into the next season through to the Catalans game. (We may have won the odd game but my memories are loss followed by loss followed by loss.)
Fans were dmonstrating to get rid of the coach and criticism were made of the tactics used on the field.
We forget.
|
|
|
|
|
|