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Of course it's Sky's fault. They give five day's notice of a change of date. I'd bet there was no consultation with Salford. Nobody would have been working at the club late on Sunday night when results meant that the Wakefield fixture was deemed to be the most meaningful of the weekend's fixtures ( after the Saints Wigan game ).

The decision shows a complete disregard for Salford's players fans and those who had booked meals on the Friday. I know of many fans who had booked the meal they were entitled to from their season ticket for the last game and now they've lost it, and others who have not missed a game all season Home or Away who are now forced to miss the game.

The club is doing what it can correctly honouring Car Park passes and promising tickets for the first home game next season for those who can't make it, but it cannot be fair for us to be denied home advantage in our final league fixture because Sky have made a decision that they want to show Wakefield on television.

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Sky pay out the majority of the money to SL clubs so in effect "own" the SL.
They can do what they want and ask games to be moved whether a club and its fans like it or not.
Same happens in the Premier League and even a club as powerful as MUFC cannot stop it.

Empty seats and low viewing figures will maybe, just maybe make them think although with someone like Murdoch running the show I doubt it.
Lets see next week the two clowns on Sky again going on about the greatest game and how everything is fine, whilst we the fans are treated like $hite and clubs are going t1ts up.

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Quote: Iain "I'll be going with a heavy heart. Any suggestions for the best way for those that go to demonstrate unhappiness with the situation?'"


Likewise - and an empty wallet,but as I go in support of the players and the coaching staff I will continue to do so,as they are certainly NOT to blame.
Whatever the players think appropriate,in terms of demonstration,I will agree with.
I should point out that the biggest clubs in the game also suffer;it was worse for the followers of the current world champions,a couple of years ago rlStoryrl

Sky will mute/turn the mike off so chants may not be suitable - probably a good thing - as this may be an opportunity to win some friends.Shame the depth of feeling and energy expressed on here and on the Facebook page cannot be used in a positive way for the players.The best I can come up with is a red card protest - holding a red card in the air.
I don't think going into camera view,near the touchline,and turning backs on the play is a good idea so I shall wait for someone intelligent to suggest a suitable protest while I plan how to reach Leigh on Saturday.

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wonder which one of those feckless clowns Eddie or Stevo will come out with "Uhm,not a very good turnout from the Salford fans,it's like a home game for the Wildcats" ?????

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As a Leyther who is intrigued by what all the fuss is about Sooper Dooper League, I'll probably venture over to LSV on Saturday. Could someone please advise me what the concession (>65 that is!) price is for the West Stand?

By the way, as for Salford honouring car park passes, the parking at LSV is free anyway, but be careful where you park. Don't park on any of the roads for example, or the wheel clampers will have a field day!

I know it's not the same as playing at home, (although your players are training at the LSV complex every day) but I'm sure you'll enjoy the excellent facilities and atmosphere at LSV.

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[iFor those who don't venture onto Facebook... I'll post on here what I posted on there... so apologies to those who have read it on Facebook....[/i

I can't believe how some people think on here. Why don't we move it to another time or another day ? etc etc....

Look... Get this into your heads as this is becoming tedious. Take a step back and think about it rather than going in all guns blazing.

Firstly... Sale moved their game because it clashed with ours... therefore... SALFORD HAD PRIORITY ON THE STADIUM... Sale, ESPN, RFU cannot move that fixture as they have already moved it once.

Secondly... Sky Sports call the shots due to the money they put in. The clubs agree to fixture changes like this... otherwise they don't sign the agreement for the Sky money... and the club isn't in Super League. They have a Saturday evening slot available and this will not be moved. Had Wakefield lost and Hull KR won at weekend... the live fixture would probably have been London v Hull KR... but it wasn't... so it's Salford. But Sky have played well within the rules here... the rules that every club.. INCLUDING SALFORD... agree to. So don't be banging on about cancelling subscriptions... it's those subscriptions that go towards you having a SL team to watch.

Thirdly... If you are looking for anybody to blame other that Salford... then blame the RFL. As somebody else has pointed out... All games on the final day should be Sunday at 3pm regardless of when a club wants to play their games. That way... we get the 'Super Sunday' type programme on Sky with perhaps 2 important games covered.

And lastly... but most importantly... This whole issue IS down to Salford. Over 10 years ago... the club decided they would be moving to Barton. They formed Red City Developments... and formed it very poorly. People came on board that should never have come on board. We spent hundreds of thousands of £££s on architects, surveys, planners etc... Then it went bump. The iconic stadium which was never a reality in truth didn't happen... and all that money that was lost / gambled on that project. This left Salford with no other choice than to get into bed with the Council and Peel... and left us as tenants at a stadium alongside the 'enemy' that is Rugby Union... and it really isn't their fault. Couple all this with the decision to keep a Chief Executive in place who didn't even like the sport of rugby league and it's all a recipe for disaster.

So... we are left as joint tenants in a stadium not owned by us... and we still have people on here blaming SKY... blaming Sale... and everybody else but ourselves. We have made this mess ourselves and are now left picking up the pieces.

Once upon a time... I wouldn't have anything ever said against the club... but people really have to wake up and smell the coffee... Our club was gambled with when trying to move to Barton... we lost... and are now left picking up the pieces. My rant isn't based on opinion... it's based on facts... It's the clubs fault over the last 10 years.... DEAL WITH IT !!!

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Doesn’t look like anyone is too happy with this move.
Anyway, some people have been saying they can’t get to the game now it’s been messed about with, which is fair enough.
Some people are staying away on principle, which again is fair enough too, but as we have another thread on the forum about potential new investors/owners. Do we think a (totally) empty stadium is going to help attract the investment the club so desperately need? Is it a case of cutting your nose off to spite your face?

Not saying anyone is wrong if they go or abstain, just something else to further cloud your decision.

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Quote: LoyalFan "[iFor those who don't venture onto Facebook... I'll post on here what I posted on there... so apologies to those who have read it on Facebook....[/i

I can believe how some people think on here. Why don't we move it to another time or another day ? etc etc....

Look... Get this into your heads as this is becoming tedious. Take a step back and think about it rather than going in all guns blazing.

Firstly... Sale moved their game because it clashed with ours... therefore... SALFORD HAD PRIORITY ON THE STADIUM... Sale, ESPN, RFU cannot move that fixture as they have already moved it once.

Secondly... Sky Sports call the shots due to the money they put in. The clubs agree to fixture changes like this... otherwise they don't sign the agreement for the Sky money... and the club isn't in Super League. They have a Saturday evening slot available and this will not be moved. Had Wakefield lost and Hull KR won at weekend... the live fixture would probably have been London v Hull KR... but it wasn't... so it's Salford. But Sky have played well within the rules here... the rules that every club.. INCLUDING SALFORD... agree to. So don't be banging on about cancelling subscriptions... it's those subscriptions that go towards you having a SL team to watch.

Thirdly... If you are looking for anybody to blame other that Salford... then blame the RFL. As somebody else has pointed out... All games on the final day should be Sunday at 3pm regardless of when a club wants to play their games. That way... we get the 'Super Sunday' type programme on Sky with perhaps 2 important games covered.

And lastly... but most importantly... This whole issue IS down to Salford. Over 10 years ago... the club decided they would be moving to Barton. They formed Red City Developments... and formed it very poorly. People came on board that should never have come on board. We spent hundreds of thousands of £££s on architects, surveys, planners etc... Then it went bump. The iconic stadium which was never a reality in truth didn't happen... and all that money that was lost / gambled on that project. This left Salford with no other choice than to get into bed with the Council and Peel... and left us as tenants at a stadium alongside the 'enemy' that is Rugby Union... and it really isn't their fault. Couple all this with the decision to keep a Chief Executive in place who didn't even like the sport of rugby league and it's all a recipe for disaster.

So... we are left as joint tenants in a stadium not owned by us... and we still have people on here blaming SKY... blaming Sale... and everybody else but ourselves. We have made this mess ourselves and are now left picking up the pieces.

Once upon a time... I wouldn't have anything ever said against the club... but people really have to wake up and smell the coffee... Our club was gambled with when trying to move to Barton... we lost... and are now left picking up the pieces. My rant isn't based on opinion... it's based on facts... It's the clubs fault over the last 10 years.... DEAL WITH IT !!!'"



Spot on LoyalFan

Amazes me how most of our fans bury their heads and see no fault in our leaders.

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Like I have said for a long time, the game is now run by Sky and not the RFL.

SKY put all the money without which many clubs would not survive. Premier league football goes through similar issues.

Its just a shame that its fallen on us to move on a day when the stadium is already booked. If Sale were away it wouldnt be an issue.

Get over to Leigh and support the lads, staying away doesnt help anyone.

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Quote: redmatt77 "
Some people are staying away on principle, which again is fair enough too, but as we have another thread on the forum about potential new investors/owners. Do we think a (totally) empty stadium is going to help attract the investment the club so desperately need? Is it a case of cutting your nose off to spite your face?
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I would think the first question any potential investors would be asking is why is the game being played in Leigh.

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If you sup with the devil use a long spoon!! Never a truer phrase to describe the dealings with Sky and the Murdoch empire!

For once though I'm in total agreement with LoyalFan's post - this immediate debacle is down to Sky but the longer term issues are a consequence of poor management decisions over the years. However what has happened is in the past - we just have to hope that Martyn Saddler in his tweet is right and there is a new owner/investor on the scene and that he/she/it brings some new ideas & a bit of dynamism to our club

I will be at Leigh - I cannot see how boycotting the game achieves anything whatsoever and as for those who've posted on Facebook that they'll stay at home and watch it on Sky as some form of protest I'm afraid that logic defates me completely.

All in all a very very sad end to a chaotic and ultimately disappointing season after showing some hope early doors.

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Quote: BartonFlyer "

I will be at Leigh - I cannot see how boycotting the game achieves anything whatsoever '"


Personally I would love to see sky trying to explain the presence of 3 empty stands but each to their own etc.

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Quote: LoyalFan "][i]
And lastly... but most importantly... This whole issue IS down to Salford. Over 10 years ago... the club decided they would be moving to Barton. They formed Red City Developments... and formed it very poorly. People came on board that should never have come on board. We spent hundreds of thousands of £££s on architects, surveys, planners etc... Then it went bump.
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So RCD was formed very poorly because they needed extra outside investment and that investor ended up having his business assets frozen a few years after they formed RCD? I wouldn't put that down to being badly formed, more bad luck. Have you considered that without this investors money RCD may never have had enough finance to take the project as far as they did? The bit that makes me laugh is your "we spent hundreds of thousands" comment . . I think you will find it was what the other investors in RCD spent not the club!!

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Quote: Karlos13 "Personally I would love to see sky trying to explain the presence of 3 empty stands but each to their own etc.'"


why would you want our game to look even worse on TV than normal? narrow-minded people think our sport is a joke as it is

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Quote: SCR-SeaDiver "Whatever the players think appropriate,in terms of demonstration,I will agree with.'"


Not quite sure what you mean here, Havn't the players been demonstrating en-masse since smith went to wigan ?

I think the players should try playing for a change ? looking back maybe you meant to say "the fans"
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