If only it were that easy. As one of the founder members of Forever Reds maybe I can explain how some people unfortunately think... maybe one of the current committee can confirm or deny whether it still be the case.

To cut a long story short... the first year of Forever Reds raised somewhere in the region of £50,000... This was done over a tireless 12 months with some serious events... it was almost non-stop. Remember... this was to help the club stay full-time following relegation. Despite doing our bit... we were met by many supposedly loyal supporters who point blank refused to help... to the point of being abusive. Many felt that we had a chairman who should be putting his hand into his pocket more often... many thought we were glory hunting... when the fact was... we were just doing our bit to help our club.

During that 12 months.... it was the same handful of people who did all the work. Out of an estimated 3,500 'loyal' fans at the time... I bet we had less than a 1% take up of people who actually put in the hard work and helped.

We did EVERYTHING we could that year... and raised just short of £50k. If the same was done again... it would barely pay any kind of salary for a SL player. Plus.... I would guess there would be a lesser take up that 1% because this time we are in SL for a guaranteed 3 year stay.

Forever Reds continues and look to be doing the right thing right now. I'm pretty sure they would never get the 3,500 loyal supporters to put something in the region of £20 each into a pot... which would just about cover the average wage of one Salford SL player... not even a superstar.

The thing is, the opinion held by yourself and "salford no 1" has been shown to be utter rubbish by facts, whilst all you and the other naysayers can come back with is conjecture, opinion and conclusions that you've jumped to without really thinking things through.

Still he is entitled to his opinion


I also cant believe that at no point has Wilky made some dough out of Salford. I appreciate what he has done and does for the club but dont think the sun shines out of his anus

yes your right , now i know the facts ,i admit i was wrong , and yes i am an idiot as stated in previous post

quite frankly, no. not unless it is based on something other than drivel that can be shown to be wrong...

...because that isn't opinion. its simply talking rubbish that is potentially damaging to the club.

that's why its important that we (i.e. salford fans) recognise the truth, and shout down those who talk such rubbish. I don't normally get dragged in - but its important that 1) the people talking such rubbish are shown to be wrong and 2) that the directors appreciate how thankful (the majority of) salford fans really are.

Listen mate, just because a few fans on here shout out that the board should spend more cash, wont mean they will spit there dummy out like most on here have done, and walk away from the club!

I'm 25 and been supporting and watching salford since i was 15/16. In that time all we've won is mickey mouse cups etc. We've lost the majority of games in that time, never really had a decent team, never had a good season in the top flight apart from one when we made the playoffs. I'm just like most supporters of sporting clubs, be it rugby league, union or football who want a success for the club they support and want the board members of that club to bring quality players in and to win things. All these facts and figures that have been shown do show us to make a loss but that still doesn't make me not want the club to still try to bring in quality players. Hopefully the sale of myler will let us sign a couple of quality players who would give us more of an edge.

why not? go back a few pages and you, and others, were arguing from the premise that they wouldnt be still here if they were not making money?

time to say thankyou to them...

for once, i believe that you are right. for this reason, i think we should take a lead from the board's position and instead of getting het up we will just dismiss your rantings as unimportant drivel

Welcome to Salfords version of the Nazi party

Everybody must do as we say or feel our wrath.
Nobody is allowed individual thoughts, unless they follow the party line.

FFS! I don't agree with the views by the JW bashers but they are at the very least allowed to feel how they like and post their views on here - a public forum. Theres no need for the personal abuse they have recieved.

Though it could be argued that anyone who thinks the board line their pockets with shed loads of cash from the club are morons

free speech is free speech, I may disagree with what you are saying, but you have the right to say it.

blah blah blah


the only way we can sign quality players is by increasing the crowds, we did this in the late 60's and mid 70's after a number of very poor years and the "crowds" did return, but it was still only about 7000 average and we were winning the league. On Friday nights top class entertainment was available both on and off the field and many United and City footballers attended matches, we were a high profile club but still could not get the punters in. Nowadays Rugby League has not got the high profile it had in them days just compare crowds, it was covered in more papers and was regular on BBC so people knew the players. Now despite what sky tell you Rugby League is not high profile, people in the street are not talking about it and therefore People do not know who these quality players are so even if we did sign them and took a gamble like we did with Garry Jack would that increase our numbers to enable us to carry on with building up the team and take the pressure off the board in the present climate I doubt it.
I unfortunately do not have the answer, over posters will say a new ground will get more fans, Wigan moved from a central location and their fanbase fell, Warrington and Hull moved to better more central locations and their attendances went up. We are said to be moving to an out of town location will we buck the trend and increase over fanbase. IMO the site of West One was the best place for our new ground before they built west one this was near to the willows but closer to all amenities and road, tram and rail connections which would entice more people in, but thats gone now.

We are in a catch 22 situation here.
We need bigger crowds to bring in more money.
A new stadium will not bring this results will.
We may get higher crowds in a new ground at the start but this will die away as the novelty wears off,and we are still losing games.
Do we go for bust and but players to achieve success ? Well Warrington and Wigan have tried it but look at them.
With the 3 year licence it should give us a chance to grow as a club and develop our youngsters and build a winning team.
Unfortunately as shown with Richie this is a load of bollox.
So it looks like we stay as we are unless a sugar daddy comes along.
Does any one know any Arab RL supporters

Oh thats ok then you insult me so I'll insult you back. And here was me thinking we were adults not little children 5.14208984375:5