Bit of honesty here Matty smith is SHIT*e you name me 4 games he has played good in and not passed it into touch, or missed the est of tackles ever (eg hull away). I have seen many players at the willows over the year but im sorry smith as some as you may know i can not stand him! Take holdsworth when he was injured what the did we create then? What happens in Holdsworth gets injured bet year we relay on Matty smith again don't make me laugh!! I will quite gladly stand next to anyone who thinks hes good and point out how many miss passes mistakes he makes a game, im sorry but i cant stand him.

As for your Fitzys, Littlers, Alkers etc as much as they might of played OK this season if SALFORD RUGBY is to move forward we can not keep these players on! Fitzy has bin ok don't get me wrong but he is still that couple of yards to slow! People will slag me of for this post but if there as good as every is making out we wouldn't be3rd from Fuc*ing bottom would we???

I don't mean to sound negative here, but M SMITH is poop,, but apart from him if salford need to move forward as a club we need to get rid of some dead wood.! Alker has bin a legend, So has littler but time to move on folks.

Fitzy hasn't been too bad this season,but let's face it,he isn't going to get any better.As others have said,if we are to move on this is one position we must improve.
The few times i've seen the reserves I've been quite impressed with Eddie Vaughan and it may be worth giving him a shot for the rest of the season.I also think that Ratchford would make a cracking fullback if he was prepared to give it a go.
Unsure about Matty Smith,had a couple of good games but his defence can be woeful at times.But he has time on his side and with hard work by him and the coaching staff I would hope that he could improve to become a decent Half-back partner to Holdroyd

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Jesus all this talk of keeping Fitzy, Littler, Sibbit et all, now weve gone and signed Holdroyd again we are going now where as a club!

Why do we do this? We keep saying get rid of so and so, but whats the point if we can't get anyone better? I honestly can't see us getting anybody better than Fitzy, who has been pretty good this season. Even if we get Patten, he is older than Fitzy and there are no guarantees he will be any better, plus we will be looking for another fullback shortly afterwards because Patten can't have many more years left in him. Keep Fitzy.

Have you seen Patten play?


They are mor or less the same age? (well with the exception of 8 months!)
Fitzpatrick – 13/09/80
Patten – 09/01/80

Different year at school

I have seen patten play and there is still no guarentee he will be any better than Fitzy, he wouldn't be the first player not to make it in Super League for us. I'm just saying we are probably best sticking with what we know. Fitzy is reliable and has offered some good options in attack this year. Patten won't come cheap and I feel the money would be best spent elsewhere, like on somebody to replace Alker.

And OK so they are similar ages but 8 months older is about a seasons worth.

Whilst I have no problem with us trying to improve the team surely the first thing that needs to be resolved are the areas we have no one playing at next year. IE Hooker & Centre. If we can get these sorted, in particular the Hooker then we can see what budget is left for improvements.
As for Fitz he is fairly solid, if not spectacular, and could we go out and buy an improvement, probably but is this the best use of what, is always, a limited budget ?

My Alan would agree 100% with redhope, use finances available to strengthen where we really need to.
Definitly think Fitzy worth another year at least, & new players dont always gel, ie, Matt King etc.
Dont think Fitzy has done much wrong this season & we need some new forwards, hooker & a top centre to replace Talau, they appear priorities

Sign Patten and play Fitz as hooker/back up hooker problem solved!

Hudds were moaning about Brett Hodgsons age when he came over and hes 2 years older than Patten. I agree we need centres and a hooker but Patten is world class

Think Fitzy deserves a contract next year also think Littler does, think he has been given a new lease of life in second row this time around and has looked good for me. with regards to Matty Smith, how can we have a scrum half who can't pass one way??? beggers belief!!

For the record I would keep hold of Fitzy. We don't have a huge budget and even if he isn't our first choice full back he's one heck of a good back up, and like many people have been saying he could possibly do a job for us at hooker. Especially as I remember a few seasons ago there was alot of talk about Salford being interested in Scott Hill and Mozza.....

I'm sure nobody on here needs reminding we ended up with neither and instead got Luke Dorn and a broken down Mark Edmondson. Call me pessimistic, because even though I'm hoping the club do get Andrew Ryan and Luke Patten, I just don't see it happening. Instead we'll probably end up with Stephen Wild and probably luke Dorn back!!!!! Lol.

Personally I'd be made up if we could keep hold of Mark Henry.