sorry am not taking the bait till the first brick is laid.....we've heard it all before !!

That's an awful long way from having it in writing that the NWDA WILL provide the funding required.

I don't believe work is about to start, those like yourself who continue to say it's starting are the deluded ones.
Any answers to the questions I posed?
Why is there nothing on Salford Council website?
Why is there nothing on the NWDA website?
Who is the builder?
What is the actual start date?
How many start dates have you given so far in this saga?

You sound like Bottler Brown apologising for his gaffe.

Read this bit again please `and a completion date of December 2011`

Ask yourself why The Willows has been sold.

Personally I am not interested in comments to a local paper which sadly has never covered the club adequately anyway.

True I dont know names and addresses of the Builders who will be putting the stadium together but why should I need to know as the club would not have made this announcement unless it was 100% guaranteed.

I am only interested in the future at Barton and it doesnt look too bad does it?

Early Bath - far too positive, you'll get no support on here !!

If the contract hasn't been awarded, how can anyone give a finish date?
The Willows hasn't been sold.
How many times has this build started and been announced? First time was Dave Tarry on the BBC website in 2000 saying they would be in by 2003.
Must have been half a dozen start dates given. You yourself said March this year not long back...........well?
Surely there would be announcements everywhere of the contract being awarded and work starting? Places like Peel's website, the MEN, Salford Advertiser, BBC North West Tonight, Granada, etc etc. There's nothing anywhere apart from a very fact devoid promo for a game on the SCR website.

How's the archaeological dig going?

Does the Salford club really hold it's fans in such contempt that it thinks they will swallow this guff yet again?

If the contract hasn't been awarded, how can anyone give a finish date? -

Let me answer that by asking you a question -

Why - unless contracts have been sorted - would the club make the announcement?

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The Willows hasn't been sold.

Yes it has.

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How many times has this build started and been announced? First time was Dave Tarry on the BBC website in 2000 saying they would be in by 2003. Must have been half a dozen start dates given.

The History of this long drawn out situation has been well documented. There have been Hurdles of immense proportions to overcome. From John Prescott, RCD & Knotweed yet the club are still batting.

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You yourself said March this year not long back...........well? -

Yes true but I was only the monkey not the organ grinder. As it happens remediation work has been continuing so maybe I was half right.

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Surely there would be announcements everywhere of the contract being awarded and work starting? Places like Peel's website, the MEN, Salford Advertiser, BBC North West Tonight, Granada, etc etc. There's nothing anywhere apart from a very fact devoid promo for a game on the SCR website.

Why? Its not National News at Election time such as Bottlers efforts in Botchdale yesterday. As you say there have been false dawns so again ask yourself why did the club make the announcement.

You sound very interested in the situation. Will you be wanting a season ticket or a Box at Barton. Ten will be available and I believe the annual rate will be very reasonable.

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How's the archaeological dig going?

Fine but no Roman Gold Coins found

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Does the Salford club really hold it's fans in such contempt that it thinks they will swallow this guff yet again?

Not at all - thats why they have produced the message in the first place.

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Scanners - unfortunately you are on a loser this time with your mates - your sabre rattling is of no consequence as the steamroller continues on its path out of Weaste.

You are right Barton - set a trap for myself -

The Willows was sold to Godliman Watson two years ago!

Salford Council appear to be raising the funds to buy it from Godliman Watson once the move to Barton has taken place

rlhttps://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1231514_town_hall_to_pay_25m_for_salford_reds_groundrl

Just a thought but maybe the fact the club are discounting tickets for the saints game and are talking about a party might just mean that they will make the announcement live on Sky before the game.

Yes we know it was sold to Watson, but this discussion refers to the claim that it has been sold to Salford Council which it hasn't!! It's irrelevant anyway to the new stadium.

When i see some actual construction taking place that's when i'll believe it!!

The club has announced work starting soon. They have done this several times before. So yet again can you answer how if there is no money or contractor in place, how a completion date can be given?

Not to Salford Council it hasn't.

Sorry to burst your bubble. I was at the Trafford Centre last weekend. There is no activity of any kind on the site. There hasn't been any since Wilko was filmed two years ago before the first round licences were given out. No plant, now sign of workmen, e.g portakabins, absolutely zilch.

Keep on kidding yourself. It's a major project for Salford and the game, but doesn't get mentioned anywhere other than a very vague piece on the club website. It's not going to start any time soon. The money isn't in place to do anything. There's no contracts signed to build it. It's a pipe dream.

The club must think Salford fans are stupid, and clearly by you believing what they are saying, they are pretty accurate.

Scanners How do you know that no contractor/money is in place? Kindly state your source. Suggest you are just rumour mongering. Have you been down to the Irlam traffic lights just past Boysnope GC? Site of the new road? Wonder where that is going then?

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Not to Salford Council it hasn't.

I answered your question - dont try & change your original question.

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Sorry to burst your bubble. I was at the Trafford Centre last weekend. There is no activity of any kind on the site. There hasn't been any since Wilko was filmed two years ago before the first round licences were given out. No plant, now sign of workmen, e.g portakabins, absolutely zilch.

No activity expected at the Trafford Centre as we will be playing miles away. As previously pointed out they have been sorting out the remediation of the ground surface which was formerly the site of sewage works. No plant is expected on site until later in the year.

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Keep on kidding yourself. It's a major project for Salford and the game, but doesn't get mentioned anywhere other than a very vague piece on the club website. It's not going to start any time soon. The money isn't in place to do anything. There's no contracts signed to build it. It's a pipe dream.

Believe what you will - maybe others know a bit more.

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The club must think Salford fans are stupid, and clearly by you believing what they are saying, they are pretty accurate.

I see youve been on the Forum for 3 weeks and have made about 200 posts. I can only surmise what your ultimate objective is and that is to push Widnes`s case for a Franchise.

Let's hope so that can only be a good thing for Salford