why does Coley get loads of grief even though he carried the pack for 7 years?

I agree that Rachford has done the same as Myler. Myler was far more influential so when he didnt do something brilliant then the fans turned on him. Rach probly touches the ball 10 times a game at centre! he did nothing when he went to 6 against Quins!

simple really because in his final year he did sod all and took the p155, he knew he was going and just went through the motions at the willows. again a player who went to an England training camp didn't get picked but came back with a very bad attitude to playing for Salford.

Sorry but am I on my own in finding it strange that Ratchford is playing in the first team?

He had made his choice to go play for Warrington and I fail to see what as a team we will benefit from him playing again.

I don't doubt he played well last night but for me it is just plain wrong he played at all.

[iI agree with you 'Michigan red'

I also think it would be better now if Ratchford plays in the reserves from now until his contract is up.[/i

So that should apply to cashmere aswell then and anyone else who is leaving at the end of the season.

You really havent got a clue have u.you dont see other teams doing it so y should salford wigan wouldnt put hoffman in the reserves and he is going at the end of the season

Good point. However, Wigan are going forward trying to win things so wouldn't be daft enough to not pick good players. We have nothing to play for now so it wouldn't be as daft for us to look at alternative options who will be with us next season.

There is a distinct difference, we have bent over backwards for a good while trying to get Ratchford to sign a very lucrative new contract, Cashmere is going home, not joining a rival team and from what I understand is playing this season to honour the contract he has.

What Ratchford has in effect done is wound his contract down and left us without any return for a player we have brought through the ranks.

Your correct but watch how many games hoffman misses between now and the end of the season(barring injury)

I would not play him for a couple of reasons.

One would be the obvious reason that Parish wants to build a team based on tightness as a unit. If a player is leaving very soon, that unit cannot function how the coach wants it to. Therefore, for me, if we have cover don't play him.

The second reason is that he makes too many errors (24 so far this year) gives away too many penalties for the position he's playing (14 so far compared to, let's say, Henry in the same position who has only given away 1 penalty) for the return you get in either assists or tries or even breaks.

It's not a question of not playing him because he's leaving, it's a question of not playing him because he is not that good at the moment.

I have to say after seeing him last night then I'd leave him out for the rest of the season. The chip over for the try was the only thing he did all night apart from a multitude of mistakes. We could be playing one of the young lads instead of him now for the rest of the season. That would benefit the team much more than playing Ratch.

While stef has continued to put 100% in I feel his move is more of a two finger salute to our previous coaching resime, he is unwilling to gamble on MP taking the club forward and has put himself 1st

I can't see where wire will play him to be fair he wants to play 6 (will wire trust such an important pivot in their team to somebody still developing physically and mentally to dictate there play like briers does) he isn't a centre in reality (unless wire put him on a fat fast plan) or play him @ fullback (he does seem to flap when under pressure wild passes, crazy offloads which arnt on)

There was a moment last night where we were attacking there line 1st half 5th tackle, the wizard received the ball from the ruck, he shipped it to ratchford he looked up and popped the ball up to boyle who eventually got clamped up it was on for a kick for the corner or quick hands but he just passed on the responsibility of making the big decition and that's why he will struggle to be a top 6 in the future imo

I suspect Mr smith will take a look at him upclose in training and go and buy a top ozzie to play standoff, ratchford like turner before him will eventually just become a utility back and like Tim Harley salfords lost genius we will always wonder what might have been if mcrae hadn't ruined his talent or if Stef had given MP a chance and help make history by being a big cog in our engine instead of being a small cog in the big engine of warrington.

Tim Harley a lost genius????????????

From 2013 Ratchford will wear the No.6 shirt at Warrington for many years to come.