Nothing going forward, defensively poor and loads of mistakes. Widnes looked a threat every time they attacked our line (aided by our poor defence), looked solid and well organised at the back and kept mistakes to a minimum. We also looked absolutely knackered at the end, whilst Widnes' fitness seemed quite good.

Either way, I guess it's not that important, however good we were, we just weren't good enough.

Has Fages got the defensive skills to play 9? I understand what you are saying about Chase/Smith, but Smith must up his game or he might lose his place.

Personally I wouldn't have signed Smith and gone with Sneyd, Chase and Fages.

On the other point I thought it was an even game with Widnes taking here chances more, they had more class 1,6 and 7.

Couple of observations from a Wire fan (with a soft spot for Salford):

1 - defence from dummy half wasn't great - watch a rerun of Hanbury's try... incredibly weak ruck defence. Real schoolboy stuff.

2 - Widnes were clearly better at the tackle area. They have been doing a lot of work with a pro UFC/MMA guy (i forget his name) and they were far better at wrestling the ball carrier onto his back/controlling the speed of the PTB. Salford should take note.

3 - Up until Salford collapsed at around 60/65 mins, it was a great game to watch. Really enjoyed the 1st half.

4 - For once, Stevo was probaby correct when bleating on about a '1 pointer' on the 40 min mark. That would have pushed it to a 8-13 with Salford getting the ball back. Instead, they ended up deep in their half, and gave away a stupid penalty.

Well said Celt - up to 65 minutes I was thoroughly enjoying it, things were starting to look a lot better than the previous two games I'd seen (missed London away).
Getting turned over like that in the last 15 minutes was a real disappointment (and if that last Widnes try was grounded I'll bare my bum in Burton's window) - but I reckon Nobby has positives to build on and we are definitely going forwards not backwards.

Enjoyed the game loved the Dr Who music at the end . .

I know he tipped Salford as GF winners this season, but it's nothing short of an embarrassment how far up the backsides of Salford Phil Clarke is during his commentaries of your games.

Even last night when it was obvious the game was up, he was chirping sh*te about Salford having 'the players and the time to get back into the game'.

Worst pundit on Sky...and that's saying something.

Quote: GT "The salary cap is a good thing, you will find no arguments with me on that one. However, it has not been reviewed for around eight years and a number of clubs, yourselves included, would be able to work under a higher cap without putting the clubs at risk. Also, it's all well and good developing youth, however a few years down the line some of that youth will the talented superstars of the day. Do you carry on offering them less money than they can get elsewhere and bank on loyalty, watching a slow drip of talent moving to Union where they can earn more cash, or do you look at ways of keeping that talent in the game without putting the clubs in financial risk? Whether the marquee signing is the way to go, or whether there's another way around it, is up for sensible discussion and hopefully the clubs will discuss it sensibly. Dismissing it so bluntly gets us nowhere. As for the U21s, I think it should have been kept as well, but I do wonder if you've used it as a rod against any other club, or if it's just convenient to use in your blind rage and hatred towards Koukash. Nowt to do with him being a scapegoat, he just really isn't good enough. We really, really weren't.'" This m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3859

Quote: GT "The salary cap is a good thing, you will find no arguments with me on that one. However, it has not been reviewed for around eight years and a number of clubs, yourselves included, would be able to work under a higher cap without putting the clubs at risk. Also, it's all well and good developing youth, however a few years down the line some of that youth will the talented superstars of the day. Do you carry on offering them less money than they can get elsewhere and bank on loyalty, watching a slow drip of talent moving to Union where they can earn more cash, or do you look at ways of keeping that talent in the game without putting the clubs in financial risk? Whether the marquee signing is the way to go, or whether there's another way around it, is up for sensible discussion and hopefully the clubs will discuss it sensibly. Dismissing it so bluntly gets us nowhere. As for the U21s, I think it should have been kept as well, but I do wonder if you've used it as a rod against any other club, or if it's just convenient to use in your blind rage and hatred towards Koukash. Nowt to do with him being a scapegoat, he just really isn't good enough. We really, really weren't.'" This m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3859

If they back it up against Leeds ill be in seventh heaven.
So your boys will be black and blue also,then wait for it next week more excuses on the way from salford again if u get beat about injuries