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| Quote: BartonFlyer "If you think Peel Holdings have EVER sold anything below market value then you clearly don't understand their DNA!!!!'"
Have you ever heard of the term lost leader?
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| Quote: Wirecutter "Have you ever heard of the term lost leader?'"
Steve Simms is our lost leader or are you referring to a 'loss leader'?
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| Quote: Walshovski "Steve Simms is our lost leader or are you referring to a 'loss leader'?'"
Look who's surfaced Mr Stuck in the past!!! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote: Wirecutter "Have you ever heard of the term lost leader?'"
mmm perhaps you could explain the economics of that one?
Let's see, we've got a tenant tied up on a lease for <n> years so they are committed to pay us <£x> over that time - why don't we give them a discount on a set of rights that are ours to do with as we wish? Makes perfect commercial sense to me ![Cool icon_cool.gif](images/smilies//icon_cool.gif)
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| Man United still referring to it as the Salford City Stadium. There U19's are currently beating Bayer Leverkusen 2-0 in the UEFA Youth Cup at the SCS.
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| Quote: BartonFlyer "mmm perhaps you could explain the economics of that one?
Let's see, we've got a tenant tied up on a lease for <n> years so they are committed to pay us <£x> over that time - why don't we give them a discount on a set of rights that are ours to do with as we wish? Makes perfect commercial sense to me
Dragging their heels about signing the tenancy agreement they then request the naming rights for £x in the knowledge they can sell for more and make a profit. SMC reluctant to sell them for £x but desperately need tenant 2 so they agree.
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| I do wonder what sort of deal has been done regarding the general naming of the stands (and indded the stadium) at SCS and what games/events the rights have been sold for. The South Stand that became the Wellsprings South Stand when Sale moved in was actually plastered with someone else's advertising covering wellsprings for the England v France RL International last year.
I wonder if there is any scope for differnet sponsors for different events, or whether the rights are for a minimum number of events per year.
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| You'd bet your last penny that if the Doc can get a stand named he will, I'd go for the South stand as I get the impression they are going to make a concerted effort to theme and make that all things Salford.
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| What is more important, if we are looking over our shoulders at Sale, will be tomorrow's vote/decision when the English RU clubs owners meet.
There is a possibility of a different RU year:
September - February : the Premiership played through 24 rounds
February - March : The Six Nations
March - June : a European Cup
so our co-tenants could be playing Sept - Feb and Mar - June.
If the vote goes for a break-away from the Heineken Cup (or a new format for it), it will heavily depend on televised rights and so set fixtures at a time when the RL games also will depend on set fixtures. If Sky demand we play at Barton at the same time as BT Sport demand Sale play the same day ...
interesting
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "Seeing as you claim that you don't know what Peel and Kennedy are upto your statement is quite inflamatory.
As far as Peel are concerned weren't they trying to help your previous regime to a new ground, one they (you) couldn't afford to develop or even it would seem pay rent? Admittedly, this gesture was probably borne out of self interest, currying favour with the City Council, a bit of planning gain?
With regards to Kennedy I don't know the facts, but, aren't the ownership issues of Edgeley Park and your shared stadium completely different? Didn't Stockport County effectively become tenants in their own home (probably not nice)? Whereas you are both tenants and due to the parlous state of your club pre Koukash you have been forced onto the back foot.
Sale have excercised their legal rights nothing more and can they be blamed for that? You would have done the same if you had the wherewithall at the time of negotiating the deal?'"
I would urge any Salford to look at the history of Stockport and what Brendan Elwood (ex Stockport Chairman) says happened. He basically claims he was lied to when he handed the club over to Kennedy. Once Sale owned the club Stockport suddenly found they were not allowed into the ground anymore apart from match days.
Regarding Peel its worth pointing out they blocked the Stadium bid by Salford in favour of their own bid it was only when a comprise with Salford Council was reached they allowed the stadium to go through.
But you can find commonalities here both clubs long serving previous chairmen found themselves in deep water after unexpected financials crisis desperate to save their clubs.
Only to find a white knight comes along and down the round both clubs end up with no ground and a lease that only a crack addict would sign up to.
I have not even mentioned the blue seats. That went in a very forward thinking plan that saw them installed before even the idea of Sale moving in to the ground came about.
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
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| There stadium is now branded up, do think it was nice of them to get the local special school to do the banner that has been thrown up. Looks like Bell's might have run out of money and done the signage on the cheap.
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "Seeing as you claim that you don't know what Peel and Kennedy are upto your statement is quite inflamatory.
As far as Peel are concerned weren't they trying to help your previous regime to a new ground, one they (you) couldn't afford to develop or even it would seem pay rent? Admittedly, this gesture was probably borne out of self interest, currying favour with the City Council, a bit of planning gain?
With regards to Kennedy I don't know the facts, but, aren't the ownership issues of Edgeley Park and your shared stadium completely different? Didn't Stockport County effectively become tenants in their own home (probably not nice)? Whereas you are both tenants and due to the parlous state of your club pre Koukash you have been forced onto the back foot.
Sale have excercised their legal rights nothing more and can they be blamed for that? You would have done the same if you had the wherewithall at the time of negotiating the deal?'"
What Sale did to Stockport is common knowledge and has been written about many, many times. The info is out there, it's even appeared on here before now if you care to do a bit of rummaging. Funny how no one's ever been taken to task by Kennedy when they have written about it, eh?
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| Quote: GT "What Sale did to Stockport is common knowledge and has been written about many, many times. The info is out there, it's even appeared on here before now if you care to do a bit of rummaging. Funny how no one's ever been taken to task by Kennedy when they have written about it, eh?'"
I wasn't condoning what Kennedy apparently 'did' to Stockport, but, surely the relationship between Sale and Salford is a different kettle of fish?
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| Quote: WorsleyRed "I would urge any Salford to look at the history of Stockport and what Brendan Elwood (ex Stockport Chairman) says happened. He basically claims he was lied to when he handed the club over to Kennedy. Once Sale owned the club Stockport suddenly found they were not allowed into the ground anymore apart from match days.
You aren't handing your club to Sale?
Regarding Peel its worth pointing out they blocked the Stadium bid by Salford in favour of their own bid it was only when a comprise with Salford Council was reached they allowed the stadium to go through.
Compromise is a good thing i don't think Peel were in a postion to allow anything
But you can find commonalities here both clubs long serving previous chairmen found themselves in deep water after unexpected financials crisis desperate to save their clubs.
Not the Council or Peels fault
Only to find a white knight comes along and down the round both clubs end up with no ground and a lease that only a crack addict would sign up to.
I don't know what the lease details are but at the time you didn't have much option to house your 8000 crowd]
I have not even mentioned the blue seats. That went in a very forward thinking plan that saw them installed before even the idea of Sale moving in to the ground came about.'"
DREARY ME blue seats
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| What are the chances Mr Koukash will purchase or part purchase SCS from Peel/SCC? I really hope he does and rips out the blue seats.
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