Some salford want to get real,wake up in a morning without your heads hurting. Your chairman has carried and pulled your tin pot club along for years, Running a club with a low fan base no money etc its time to back the board before you self destruct even before the season starts.

Seriously how can you be so narrow-minded!!! Really is infuriating how people are missing the point! Let's, for argument sake say you figure add up? The chairman "employs" people to market the club, so if were only getting 2000 season tickets while I highly doubt in the first place, then whose fault is that? No marketing, no media department. Whose role is that? We all no it's none existent who they should be accountable for their actions and loose their job! We got 10k last game; you would have thought they would have been a push then even to attract new spectators! Whose job should that be? Yet again failing it there job description. The boss i.e. chairman should be getting a grip of these people and telling them some home truths and their jobs is dependent on results! One final note if I hear he keeps the business going one more time I swear I’m going to flip!!!! Maybe if he employed good professionals the club could turn around the short-fall and not continue with the dribble that’s being served up at the minute! Completely flabbergasted how people are missing the point and think people should get there tongue on JW bum cheeks! Wake up and smell the coffee, as stated putting, him putting money into the club is merely papering over the cracks to what has been a poor management skill!!! Good grief!!

Been watching Warrington a long time Or did you discover them whilst shopping at Tesco.

Programmethrower, all i did was point out the economics of running a SL club, I suppose United have the best marketing team in the world but on Wednesday only 45,000 people turned up at OT, why the carling cup and Uniteds performances over the past month effects peoples attitude.
No matter what Salford have tried lots of things to get people in but if the product doesn't produce they will not waste money to watch. I am not up JW's backside just recognising that we would have nothing to support without him, unless you have a couple of million to invest each year.
Perhaps the truth hurts, it is upto teh fans to put their hands in their pockets and get their mates to do the same and come and watch, the more there the more money to invest in the team, have a go on the halftime draw, do the lifeline draw but do more than just pay £180 a year because that gets you Swinton, Rochdale or Oldham.

Interesting how anyone who doesn't agree with you only does so because they want to get 'there' ([isic[/i) tongue around his bum cheeks. It can't be that they see things differently to you can it?

OK. This bad management. You've obviously done a lot of research into this. I suspect Pev's figures above are a pretty accurate reflection of the way things are. The shortfall is made up by the board (although some clown on the first page seemed to think they were making money out of the club ). Do they have an unlimited supply of money? Please tell us. If not (and that's what I suspect), how much of the club's current predicament is down to them not having the money to do things better? You see, to me, in my apparently blinkered view, a club with our level of support in a city with our level of interest in the sport probably shouldn't be in Super League. The fact that we are is, I believe, solely down to the efforts (and money) of the people you are blasting.

Now that's not to say things couldn't be a whole lot better - most of us think they could - but, at the same time, most of us realise this takes money the club just hasn't got. Until you square that circle, the moaning about the board just comes across as a vendetta.

Is that OK?

1. he keeps the business going

2. As you feel you can do better, please contact the club and offer your services

3. Red John has got it spot on.
The best marketing is not United but McDonald's and they have had to close their store in Rochdale because they could not get enough payong punters through the door.
We are offering a product foreign to so many in our area (though Jamaican RL seems to be growing), with a history of failure on the field, surrounded by 5 premier Football clubs (only London has this issue and it is 5 times a bigger population), and in the middle of huge unemployment.

Step up to the mark and tell us how this can be overcome.

Durr. Sack everyone!

Pev you figures are completely wrong, I know you were only guessing but I can confirm beyond any doubt that the turnover on the last published accounts were well in excess of £3m.

How will the loss of drink sales on day of games affect turn over? And will the club still make money from game day corporate events if we are not running them?

If you are just looking at the published accounts from Companies House, then you cannot know that, as they do not show turnover. The abbreviated accounts (which are what you have to file by law for small companies) are in effect just a balance sheet, not a P&L - the last filed accounts show a carried forward loss of £5,816,154 some £492,575 worse than the loss of £5,323,589 with which the club started the year!

If you are actually a shareholder and have a copy of the full accounts, then I bow to your superior knowledge - alternatively, if it was the proverbial salford taxi-driver who told you...........

As I understand it,Azure, who have the catering contract charge the club an amount for each diner, the club puts on a mark up and the club gets this finance.

So for example if Azure charge £30 and the corporates are charged £50 and there are 900 diners the club makes £18000.

I have a copy of the accounts and you are correct over the carried forward loss and Pev although not the club accountant is not far off with his suggested turnover figure.

I have the full copy in my hand for 2010 and yes they are from a shareholder. Turnover is in excess of £3m, I wouldn't have stated I have proof beyond a shadow of a doubt if I did not! Now I wonder what people really think of the financial runnings of the club are and what other defence they have to offer?

The figures are wrong anyway , he's forgotten the fact that 20 percent of the ST and match ticket totals he quoted are VAT

So Salford are losing around £ 400 + per season , and that is being covered by the directors , your accounts turnover is 3 million , so your actual real turnover could easily be around 2.7 million , around half of that from SKY