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| I mean how did John let it get this serious?. If we were struggling 5/10 years ago why the hell didn't he try and find a buyer then? Why only now when we're on deaths door has he attempted to find a buyer! It's ridiculous he will now be known as the man who let Salford RLFC die!
Another thing what happened to the money from the sale of the willows to Goldman&watson homes? Probably in johns offshore account. If he really loved this club he would of hit the panic button a long time ago not countlessly borrow from the council! I just can't believe it it's disgraceful what has happened and I hope all the board are happy what they have done! R.I.P SALFORD RLFC!
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| The title was meant to say how have we got into this mess.
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| Quote: RED LEAGUE "I mean how did John let it get this serious?. If we were struggling 5/10 years ago why the hell didn't he try and find a buyer then? Why only now when we're on deaths door has he attempted to find a buyer! It's ridiculous he will now be known as the man who let Salford RLFC die!
Another thing what happened to the money from the sale of the willows to Goldman&watson homes? Probably in johns offshore account. If he really loved this club he would of hit the panic button a long time ago not countlessly borrow from the council! I just can't believe it it's disgraceful what has happened and I hope all the board are happy what they have done! R.I.P SALFORD RLFC!'"
Please get your facts right. John was looking ready for retirement when 10 years ago he wasnt.
John bought the Willows many years ago and if you look at the Accounts the monies went into the club. You will also see from the Accounts the MILLIONS he has staked to prop up the club. Don`t blame our Chairman. All he has done is provide the likes of you & me with a great sporting interest for years. Instead of berating him I think you should offer him a bit of sympathy. If the Company goes to the wall he will have lost an absolute fortune.
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| The question should be "How do we get out of this mess?"
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| Quote: RedDave "The question should be "How do we get out of this mess?"'"
Bingo.
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| Basically with it taking too long to get into Barton, the Willows has slowly bled the club dry, unable to draw in the support you needed, and now short on time and cash to do the neccessary marketing
As for how you get out of it? , christ knows
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| It don't help when you give free tickets out very week to get people interested and it still did not increase. No matter what marketing we would have done people round Salford prefer football. But still think the club should have done more also alienating your own supporters by ignoring them as made this even worse as they have lost me. They were ignorent to think they would ever make targets. Anyone who does show interest will see there is not enough money coming into the club making it an unviable perchase
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| Quote: Early Bath "Please get your facts right. John was looking ready for retirement when 10 years ago he wasnt.
John bought the Willows many years ago and if you look at the Accounts the monies went into the club. You will also see from the Accounts the MILLIONS he has staked to prop up the club. Don`t blame our Chairman. All he has done is provide the likes of you & me with a great sporting interest for years. Instead of berating him I think you should offer him a bit of sympathy. If the Company goes to the wall he will have lost an absolute fortune.'"
Quote: Early Bath "Please get your facts right. Â John was looking ready for retirement when 10 years ago he wasnt. Â Â
John bought the Willows many years ago and if you look at the Accounts the monies went into the club. Â You will also see from the Accounts the MILLIONS he has staked to prop up the club. Â Don`t blame our Chairman. Â All he has done is provide the likes of you & me with a great sporting interest for years. Â Instead of berating him I think you should offer him a bit of sympathy. Â If the Company goes to the wall he will have lost an absolute fortune.'"
You say he's put millions into the club? Id like to know how many millions? Say hes put 10 million all in all, thats only over 300000 a year over the course of his 30 year reign I remember a Salford player once stating the wages the club pay out are just above minimum wage and you wonder why we never had any success!, I dont even believe he has put that much in, if anything He's made millions out of it. that variety centre was built to fund our RL team under Brian Snape,and for the last 30 years it's funded the Wilkinson family so he has made money out of the club, and to me now the money making has ended so has his intrest In the club!
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| Quote: RED LEAGUE "You say he's put millions into the club? Id like to know how many millions? Say hes put 10 million all in all, thats only over 300000 a year over the course of his 30 year reign I remember a Salford player once stating the wages the club pay out are just above minimum wage and you wonder why we never had any success!, I dont even believe he has put that much in, if anything He's made millions out of it. that variety centre was built to fund our RL team under Brian Snape,and for the last 30 years it's funded the Wilkinson family so he has made money out of the club, and to me now the money making has ended so has his intrest In the club!'"
ONLY £300,000 per year!! I know some other chairmen put in more than that but to berate a man for basically throwing away £300k a year is a little bit harsh IMO.
I feel sorry for the Salford fans, we have been there and it's not a nice place to be. I genuinely hope ypu find a way out of this mess that doesn't result in you losing your club.
Hopefully the RFL will show some consistency for once and actually help you out in the same way they did with Bradford.
Best wishes guys, I hope it gets sorted.
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| Quote: RED LEAGUE "You say he's put millions into the club? Id like to know how many millions? Say hes put 10 million all in all, thats only over 300000 a year over the course of his 30 year reign I remember a Salford player once stating the wages the club pay out are just above minimum wage and you wonder why we never had any success!, I dont even believe he has put that much in, if anything He's made millions out of it. that variety centre was built to fund our RL team under Brian Snape,and for the last 30 years it's funded the Wilkinson family so he has made money out of the club, and to me now the money making has ended so has his intrest In the club!'"
Totally agree. Good post
And the Red carpet will still be rolled out for him by the deluded lot. Their mindset is " ah well at least he provided us with a sporting interest over the years, without him we would of gone years ago, it's not his fault" That is just pure sand dwelling mentality. Believe me, he's earned his corn ouut of Salford over the years.
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| Quote: eccles star "It don't help when you give free tickets out very week to get people interested and it still did not increase. No matter what marketing we would have done people round Salford prefer football. But still think the club should have done more also alienating your own supporters by ignoring them as made this even worse as they have lost me. They were ignorent to think they would ever make targets. Anyone who does show interest will see there is not enough money coming into the club making it an unviable perchase'"
It didn't help that regular paying 'fans' were misusing the free ticket idea as a way to get in for nothing. For a struggling Club when your own fans start doing things like that there isn't really any hope. I agree with you on the Football part and in some part the communication from the Club which has always been selective.
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| Quote: Philyourboots "Totally agree. Good post
And the Red carpet will still be rolled out for him by the deluded lot. Their mindset is " ah well at least he provided us with a sporting interest over the years, without him we would of gone years ago, it's not his fault" That is just pure sand dwelling mentality. Believe me, he's earned his corn ouut of Salford over the years.'"
You're very closely edging towards the best card in the deck in 'Imaginary Salford Supporters Top Trumps'
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Don't understand why a 'fan' would take great pleasure in seeing the demise of his own Club. I mean, why bother wasting your time on here if you already declared Salford Reds as a waste of time? Seems counter-intuitive to me. I really hate doughnuts but I don't go on ILoveDoughnuts.com and have a good whinge about it.
Not that it matters anymore as the lovely BLOCK option will now be chosen...
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| Tony
I'm not one bit surprised this has happened, it was inevitable, the club was riddled with a disease, you don't treat the symptoms for the disease you eradicate the source to progress forward. This is the same in Salford case. The board is the disease whats put this club on it's death bed FACT.
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| Quote: Philyourboots "Tony
I'm not one bit surprised this has happened, it was inevitable, the club was riddled with a disease, you don't treat the symptoms for the disease you eradicate the source to progress forward. This is the same in Salford case. The board is the disease whats put this club on it's death bed FACT.'"
Shows how daft you are, TB says he's blocked you but still reply.
Same no doubt you'll reply to this despite you now being added to the block list.
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| Red League : please explain the morality of slamming a person who has put his OPWN money into a club to try to keep it alive.
Eccleswhatsit : please explain the stance of falling out with a chairman whose actions allowed you the liberty of supporting Salford until you decided otherwise. You condemn his actions even when those actions allowed you to support the club for several years.
Philyourbutt: oh whatever: you're happy now
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