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Does anyone else think like me and believe that if there is any amount of doubt in a decision the VR has to make, he has been advised to take the controversial one? Maybe to add more publicity to the game, good or bad?

That try in the GF was offside no doubts and no arguments, the decision by Bentham was a disgrace, its not a first and certainly wont be the last. Its becoming beyond a joke icon_surprised.gifops:

Wasn't ar$ed about the result, it just upsets me that our game can be shown up in this way.

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A terrible dicision that tonight by the video ref you clearly see he is infront of the kicker. he needs to go to an opticiaion for stronger lenses or demoted to national league 2 for that tonight even ganson looked bemused by the decision. to make a call like that on a game of some importance mars a great game of rugby. I feel for sts fans.

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Quote: neil72 "even ganson looked bemused by the decision. . quote]
didn't see how he looked myself....but by that statement, why did he go to the VR ? fwiw it was offside....and for me Bentham has been the stand out dodgy ref all season icon_rolleyes.gif

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Like you have said, it was a shocking decision. How he tried to justify the decision by saying both of smiths feet were behind the ball when it was kicked was a joke!

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Saints lost because of two mistakes by Meli and a bigger mistake by the Video Ref.

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Quote: RedDave "Saints lost because of two mistakes by Meli and a bigger mistake by the Video Ref.'"

And they got beat by a better team icon_wink.gif

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I was there so didn't see what was said on TV, but thought that it was off side as soon as I saw it.

Also, the one where Eastmond was tackled in to touch and a 20m restart was given - did he not touch the line before the flag?

And another point on the video refs - if I can see that Eastmond's and Disckin's were tries straight away from the tier2 quadrant, why the hell does Ganson need to get someone else to make decisions?

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from on the tv it was hard to say if eastmond touch the whitewash, i didn't think he did but from one angle it looked like he might of done, another looked like he didn't.

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Quote: RedDave "Saints lost because of two mistakes by Meli and a bigger mistake by the Video Ref.'"


Must admit the man on the telly has been a liability whenever I've watched Saints this year, cost them two try's no doubt about that.

As for Smith offside a mile even Stevie Wonder could see that..

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You only had to look at the big white 10 yard line to see that smith was offside and in front of Mcguire. Mcguire's feet are about 1 foot in front of the line Smith's are at least two foot in front of it, so it doesn't matter what camera angle you use the line does not move so he Bentham should have spotted that. icon_frustrated.gif

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Quote: Iain "Also, the one where Eastmond was tackled in to touch and a 20m restart was given - did he not touch the line before the flag?'"

No. I was there and also sitting close to the big screen. Eastmond was superb in avoiding the touchline. He was on his toes as he ran close to it. Damn shame, from Saints POV that is, that he hit the corner flag before grounding the ball. That lad deserved to be on the winning side.

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Did Sean Long have a punt on the game icon_confused.gif:

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I agree with all that's been said. I thought the Smith "try" was so obviously offside.

You have to say that it was about par for the course for Mr Bentham. He's had a really bad season.

It left a really bad taste in the mouth in what was a pretty tense game for a GF.

Ironically I think Steve Ganson has been the best ref by a country mile this season (especially when it comes to players browbeating refs and punishing them for it).

It's the sort of decision that you would expect if we HADN'T got the video ref.

Bloody joke.

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