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Interesting article. Says that Cashmere might be doing a u-turn on going back to Oz. Fingers crossed.

Come on Ray, you know you want to!


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but the rest of the article could have been copied and pasted from the turkey, I reckon Barker just threw that in to have one original point in his piece. a050.gif

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Would be the best possible signing we could make for next year IMHO

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The best possible signing! Really?? I think a few people on here live in cashmere wonderland. When was the last time u saw him put a big hit in or bust through a tackle or do anything at pace? Personally I think it's time for him to leave, Jewitt and Boyle are more mobile and aggressive and more like what we need. Thanks Ray, ur a nice bloke and a good club man but your time is up

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Quote: KMT "The best possible signing! Really?? I think a few people on here live in cashmere wonderland. When was the last time u saw him put a big hit in or bust through a tackle or do anything at pace? Personally I think it's time for him to leave, Jewitt and Boyle are more mobile and aggressive and more like what we need. Thanks Ray, ur a nice bloke and a good club man but your time is up'"



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If there is a chance , Any chance of pursuading the Big Ray to stay on an extra year we must take it .
Boyle has deservedly won the race to be the 2nd starting Prop , but Jewitt still has alot to proove , after these 3 I struggle to name another from our squad who really causes trouble and has such a physical presence.

Ray's Stats speak for themselves, I cannot comprehend anybody who thinks he isn't worth keeping eusa_eh.gif

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Quote: KMT "The best possible signing! Really?? I think a few people on here live in cashmere wonderland. When was the last time u saw him put a big hit in or bust through a tackle or do anything at pace? Personally I think it's time for him to leave, Jewitt and Boyle are more mobile and aggressive and more like what we need. Thanks Ray, ur a nice bloke and a good club man but your time is up'"



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Ray Cashmere stats

Position 8
Shirt number 8
Appearances 22
Tries 1
Try assists 1
Goals 0
Drop Goals 0
Meters 2347
Carries 341
Tackles 597
Offloads 41
Attacking Kicks 1
Runs from dummy half 1
Tackle Busts 19
Marker tackles 98
Clean Breaks 2
Forty twenty 0
Kicks in general play 1
Missed goals 0
Missed tackles 27
Errors 14
Penalties 9
Red cards 0
Yellow cards 0



Ryan Boyle Stats

10 Position
19 Shirt number
21 Appearances
1 Tries
0 Try assists
0 Goals
0 Drop Goals
1829 Meters
287 Carries
544 Tackles
4 Offloads
0 Attacking Kicks
0 Runs from dummy half
25 Tackle Busts
58 Marker tackles
0 Clean Breaks
0 Forty twenty
1 Kicks in general play
0 Missed goals
34 Missed tackles
4 Errors
19 Penalties
0 Red cards
1 Yellow cards


Im sorry but Cashmere shi*s on any other forward we have got.

People may not like what im going to say but we have to many forwards who dont do anything, Neal,Adamson,Sidlow,Jewitt,Boyle,Nero whilst there not bad players they are players who aren't going to make any yardage or create any go forward. If you are serious about a top 8 finish you would want Boyle to be your worse prop on your team not your second best (in my opinion).

I think we have the best backs we have had in years, Broughton & Williams has got to be one of if not the best wing partnerships in the league. Holdsworth has most assists in the league and thats with a god awful pack. My point is these are working of a beaten pack in nearly every game we play because the players ive named a above simply aren't good enough for a super league pack.

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Quote: KMT "The best possible signing! Really?? I think a few people on here live in cashmere wonderland. When was the last time u saw him put a big hit in or bust through a tackle or do anything at pace? Personally I think it's time for him to leave, Jewitt and Boyle are more mobile and aggressive and more like what we need. Thanks Ray, ur a nice bloke and a good club man but your time is up'"


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The telling thing for me from those stats is that twice this year we've clearly been that disorganised we've ended up with a prop putting a kick in!

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would you be able to put the other props stats up. very interesting reading!!! thanks

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Quote: oldhaminoz "would you be able to put the other props stats up. very interesting reading!!! thanks'"


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Quote: The Original Red Devils "Ray Cashmere stats

Position 8
Shirt number 8
Appearances 22
Tries 1
Try assists 1
Goals 0
Drop Goals 0
Meters 2347
Carries 341
Tackles 597
Offloads 41
Attacking Kicks 1
Runs from dummy half 1
Tackle Busts 19
Marker tackles 98
Clean Breaks 2
Forty twenty 0
Kicks in general play 1
Missed goals 0
Missed tackles 27
Errors 14
Penalties 9
Red cards 0
Yellow cards 0



Ryan Boyle Stats

10 Position
19 Shirt number
21 Appearances
1 Tries
0 Try assists
0 Goals
0 Drop Goals
1829 Meters
287 Carries
544 Tackles
4 Offloads
0 Attacking Kicks
0 Runs from dummy half
25 Tackle Busts
58 Marker tackles
0 Clean Breaks
0 Forty twenty
1 Kicks in general play
0 Missed goals
34 Missed tackles
4 Errors
19 Penalties
0 Red cards
1 Yellow cards


Im sorry but Cashmere shi*s on any other forward we have got.

Im sorry but I have to disagree with your conclusion that Cashmere "Sh*s" on any other forward we have. Yes pound for pound he's more entertaining than our other forwards, however does anyone remeber Korkidas - Voted "Fans player of the Year" when he statistically made the most error's, dropped the most balls, and give away the most penalities...
Dont get me wrong, dont for minute think I want rid of Ray, I want him to stay and would love his services for another year, but compare him to the likes of Adamson (below) and your conclusion that he's the only decent forward we have simply is wrong.

Position 12
Shirt number 15
Appearances 23
Tries 2
Try assists 1
Goals 0
Drop Goals 0
Meters 1761
Carries 309
Tackles 743
Offloads 6
Attacking Kicks 1
Runs from dummy half 4
Tackle Busts 32
Marker tackles 109
Clean Breaks 1
Forty twenty 0
Kicks in general play 1
Missed goals 0
Missed tackles 32
Errors 8
Penalties 15
Red cards 0
Yellow cards 1

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Well a lot of people have been raving about Coley this season and if you look at those stats on the head to head, Cashy is head & shoulders above Coley in pretty much every department. I'm aware he has played 2 games more but even taking that in to account Cashmere wins hands down. That was just 1 head to head I looked at but Coley is the starting prop for the current (& future) SL champions and potential double winners afterall!

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Big Ray will be going,nice man but we can do better in my opinion.

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