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Has anything official been announced to say they are the new club sponsors?

I know were waiting (with less and less patience in my case) for movement on the new ownership but I don't see why that would stop a new sponsor being unveiled unless this is subject to new ownership being in place?

Pretty similar on the shirt side, can't see how a new owner will have any baring on the design of the shirt so surely again releasing details (or at the very least images) of it would help to allay some fears and promote a bit of positive press rather than the current doom and gloom.

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It seems everything's dependent on what happens investment-wise and once everything's sorted it'll be all systems go...

Mr. Barker's not got long for his latest "this is the week" prediction to come true...

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Quote: GT "It seems everything's dependent on what happens investment-wise and once everything's sorted it'll be all systems go...

Mr. Barker's not got long for his latest "this is the week" prediction to come true...'"



Seems odd that if they have for example images of the new shirt that they don't release images to at least calm a few nerves.

Have to admit to getting more and more jittery on the outcome of the apparent investment.

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I'm kind of hoping it might all happen together: press conference on new ownership, with Martin Gleeson and Andrew Dixon introduced wearing the new shirt(s) and sponsors announced.

I can hope.

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Quote: Iain "I'm kind of hoping it might all happen together

Plus eight other big name signings................

I can dream.

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Quote: RedDave "Plus eight other big name signings................

I can dream.'"



Speculating and making 'big name signings' in the hope of attracting more support got us into this situation. I think the best we can hope for is a couple of loan signings and maybe some championship players with something to prove.

I think it’s going to be a slow process because I can’t see the new owners wanting to take the same gamble in this economic climate until they are confident that more people in Salford will get behind their local club.

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Quote: Michigan red "Seems odd that if they have for example images of the new shirt that they don't release images to at least calm a few nerves.

Have to admit to getting more and more jittery on the outcome of the apparent investment.'"


I agree with you. But what can you do?

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Quote: GT "I agree with you. But what can you do?'"



Annoyingly nowt we can do, it does make you wonder why we voluntarily put ourselves through this.
I mean we could start following Sale as they are having a blinding - oh wait a minute icon_wink.gif

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Heard its going to be announced on 29th February

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Quote: theredshed "Speculating and making 'big name signings' in the hope of attracting more support got us into this situation. I think the best we can hope for is a couple of loan signings and maybe some championship players with something to prove.
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I must of missed those big name signings....

We wasted a load of money on crap, half of whom weren't fit in the final year of the last franchise, which was stupid as we were clearly going to be awarded one no matter happened.

It's hard to portray this as akin to say Leeds United were they spent wildly in order to reach for the top and failed. Our plan was presumably to move from 10th to 8th, hardly going to get the crowds pouring in. Our financial problems are more deep rooted than that.

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Quote: Michigan red "I know we're waiting (with less and less patience in my case) for movement on the new ownership '"


Think the forum could have been used to help pass the time if we knew it would be taking so long.
We could have had posters suggesting appropriate songs;I would go for rlTired Of Waiting for you - Kinksrl and rlWaiting In Vain - Bob Marleyrl

Even now we could have little bets (on when an announcement will be made) and someone may be on a nice little earner for Christmas.

rlWe could sleep through it but that wouldn't be so tenserl

I am unable to think of any witty aphorism,but while temporarily homeless came across something outside a church which led to finding a quote from Carl Jung,a philosopher I hadn't heard of,( I only went to school for a free lunch one June day one year ) it may be appropriate -

[iWhen we must deal with problems, we instinctively resist trying the way that leads through obscurity and darkness. We wish to hear only of unequivocal results, and completely forget that these results can only be brought about when we have ventured into and emerged again from the darkness. But to penetrate the darkness we must summon all the powers of enlightenment that consciousness can offer.[/i

Of course,the delay may be if everyone has to read and digest rlWho Moved My Cheeserl

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Scr-sea diver..how's about "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotamy"......

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Quote: Walshovski "I must of missed those big name signings....

We wasted a load of money on crap, half of whom weren't fit in the final year of the last franchise, which was stupid as we were clearly going to be awarded one no matter happened.

It's hard to portray this as akin to say Leeds United were they spent wildly in order to reach for the top and failed. Our plan was presumably to move from 10th to 8th, hardly going to get the crowds pouring in. Our financial problems are more deep rooted than that.'"


Come on Walshovski don't play silly buggers you know full well what I meant. There was a significant increase in the player budget in an attempt to gain some momentum and you know it. OK maybe not on a level to Leeds United in football but enough to create the financial problems the club finds itself in today.

The club would have been equally criticised if they hadn't speculated before moving to Barton. There would have been people on here whining about the club lacking ambition had they not increased the player budget. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?

I agree that some of the signings turned out to be poor and the squad did not perform to their potential but to say the financial problems are more deep rooted is utter garbage. These financial problems are recent (not historical) and a result of increasing the player budget, not getting bigger crowds and having fewer income streams than they had at the Willows. And don't throw the company accounts at me because a lot of the long term debt was simply loans from the directors that I doubt they ever thought they would get back.

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Quote: theredshed "The club would have been equally criticised if they hadn't speculated before moving to Barton.'"


I think "speculating" was part of the problem. There were arguably safer, more solid signings that could have been made, but we appeared to splash cash based on past reputations. Two of the "big signings" never played for the club, one took a year to get remotely fit, others were plagued by injuries. And it wasn't really surprising. I remember reading at the time a couple of journalists saying how the word in the game was that Salford had "signed a few lemons", then the stories came out about the club not bothering with medicals before signing.

There's little doubt that the playing budget was increased, but it wasn't increased very wisely.

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Quote: Iain "I think "speculating" was part of the problem. There were arguably safer, more solid signings that could have been made, but we appeared to splash cash based on past reputations. Two of the "big signings" never played for the club, one took a year to get remotely fit, others were plagued by injuries. And it wasn't really surprising. I remember reading at the time a couple of journalists saying how the word in the game was that Salford had "signed a few lemons", then the stories came out about the club not bothering with medicals before signing.

There's little doubt that the playing budget was increased, but it wasn't increased very wisely.'"


I agree some (not all) of the signings turned out to be poor but that's not my argument. It was still a better squad in 2011 & 2012 than the club had in 2010. Could better signings have been made? Yes but would better signings have put another 3000 on the gates in this economic climate? I very much doubt it.

We can all be smart ar$e$ and identify mistakes with hindsight can't we? and I can't remember too many on here being critical when some of these signings were announced. Quite the opposite as I remember, people were getting a bit giddy.

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