We sit here today almost a year on from leaving our old spiritual home and the Willows is being reduced to rubble. Today I've read excerpts from a book penned by a succesful, well-regarded ex-player, stating how badly run the club has been in very recent years. I have also read that there were officially 146 in the away end at Wigan last night (I wasn't one of them and I'm not sure whether those who did travel should be congratulated or certified). We have already relinquished one half of a decent half-back pairing and the other would appear to want away from the club. Our full back has decided to retire rather than spend another year playing for us. A decent young centre has decided to up sticks and move 100 miles to further his career playing for a different team who also won't be in the playoffs. Our best centre is rumoured to be wanting to move back to the NRL less than one year into his contract. Rumours suggest we are interested in David Solomona...

I was texted today by another long-suffering Salford fan: "Where is this all going to end? And how many times will we ask that question?"

And...I couldn't answer him. Well, to be honest, I could offer my answer, but I really didn't want to consider it.

Anbody?

I do, and I'm still waiting for John Gallagher, Anthony Minichello and Craig Gower to sign! Let us hope the club have learnt from signing old, past it players - I would rather we promoted from the U20s than waste money on yet more stars from yesteryear...

You make some very valid points, and to be honest I'm not sure I could disagree with much of what you've written. I appreciate the club is working on a shoestring but I think that is what worries me most - the classic catch 22 scenario, but now we are in bed with the Yawnion lot, in a ground we are paying a lot of money to rent, the stakes seem so much higher. Along with the reported precarious financial position we are in, how can we possibly attract decent players to compliment the handful of good players we will have left?

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I agree with a lot you say but the fact remains your logic tells me that reduced rent should equal more to spend on players, not a mass exodus. In my book no new players or old hand my downs next season will most certainly equals less season ticket holders plus less away fans as the novelty factor as gone, how many more spirals can the club survive,the cycle continues unless there is some master plan ready to be launched. ""] no point worrying now about the fact that we've no money, it's been the same for years, Wilky has said that the rent is not as much as people think and Sale moving in makes little impact on us if you analyse it properly. It's time some folk on here calmed down (not you) and realised that we're not going to be challenging for honours on a regular basis, in fact, the best we can hope for is securing one of the lower spots in the play-offs (6th-8th). With a little more luck and effort this year we weren't far off achieving that actually. All the positive signs we've seen this year came out of a fairly turbulent season and off-season last year so hopefully this year's off-season will be much better for Vievers and Long and it will shine through next year. I'm not saying that I haven't had my head in my hands on a number of occasions this year with the way we've played but I still think we've done ok considering.'"

Robbie Paul said he loved it at Bradford Huddersfield and Leigh,about us he said it was an us and them
situation.He also mentioned the captaincy how we took it of Alker,and gave it to Parker then six weeks later
give it back to Alker, without telling Parker what a shambles.That decision must have come from the top
and that's where our troubles lie,not with Tarry he was just doing what he was told,in my opinion.
Paul and Patten can't both be wrong, and we are becoming a laughing stock.

I just knew it wouldn't be long before one of the usual doom and gloom crew turned up.
What happened when Robbie Paul was at the club is ancient history and should be viewed as such, but hey, you carry on bagging the club, I'm sure it'll boost Robbie's sales and feed your need to see incompetent management in everything the club does.

Serious point though; if well respected players like Paul and Patten are highlighting that we are badly run, who is going to want to sign for us (especially when one is about to become an agent)? Will we then, in turn, have to pay more for the same player to overcome their doubts?

Many of us can see how it is... some people refuse to... some of the most experienced players in the game can see exactly how it is... tell us... and even then... many refuse to believe it.

Reason....

I have little doubt there are issues in the background at Salford but I wouldn't trust Paul for all the tea in China, I would though be more inclined to believe Patten despite his views being aired in the Manchester Evening Comic.

What I read lately on here is complete and utter garbage from posters with a couple of hundred posts, who inevitably sooner or later, somewhere down the line will take their blinkers off. I read somewhere on here recently that Salford were over achieving too

FWIW most of us 'older' heads can see Salford for what it really is, for those less fortunate I pity you.

I suggest you take those two not worth's off your avatar too. Loyalty is a two way street, in the last 15 years or so only a handful of players can walk away from this club with their head held high. I understand there are deeper problems from within with Salford, miss-management etc. However the sooner players understand its a privilege and not a right to play the game of RL for any club they can right off! They're not superstars, they're not life saving surgeons, they're not world leaders, they don't have a divine right for adulation, they're just RL players who came through slightly better than their piers to play a sport they enjoy. If they want to hold clubs to ransom or expect the world to look upon them as though we owe them something then they got it completely wrong.

Black cat and Loyal ( ) Fan, if you won the euro lotto you’d find fault!

He and others may have made more than a hundred posts if everything that was said wasn’t met with complete doom and misery from you lot.

Not only are you putting people off going to the game with your incessant slagging off the club, but you’re putting people off reading and posting on this board.

Next time one of you post yet another long list of why the club is rubbish, you can add a point for me:
. a small vocal group of fans who slag everything off and cant see the huge negative effect they have on the club, players and fans (potential) new and old.

Now where is that head in sand picture?