Sorry to disagree Jgr, it was the wrong call,at the wrong time.In my 55 years of watching the game,that is the worst Wigan team I have seen they were their for taking and we failed,I am sure the Butcher will agree.It is time I'n my opinion we should stop making excuses,Wigan were their for taking,and through dumb football by experienced players we failed.Outside the ground I herd Koucash tell all and sundry it was the referees fault,not on Friday it was our own fault.On Friday we gifted them the game,as I say in this instance we should stop the excuses in the long run it does the club no favours.Rant over.

I'm not looking for excuses? But I am also not blaming the call to go for two points either. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it’s easy to criticise the decision after we ended up missing. Whether or not this is the worst Wigan team you have seen, they’re still near the top of the table and are still better than us. It was a brave effort given the injuries we had before the game and especially considering the ones we incurred during.

I spoke to Marwan after the game also, he wasn’t blaming the referee. He was proud of the performance and the way the players kept fighting until the final hooter again. We’re in year 1 of Tim Sheens 3 year plan and are a couple of new signings away from having a team that WILL challenge at the top end of the table.

This season was all about restoring some pride and building. We struggled recruiting some good players last season because of the awful reputation the club had. Agents quite rightly avoided sending their clients to Salford and Watto and Sheens did very well to assemble the squad they did. I am confident we won’t have that problem again this year and Sheens job be will made easier due to the performances on the field and unbelievable team spirit amongst the players.

I and many around me, [idid[/i think it was the wrong decision at the time. We hadn't had many minutes in their 20 yet got gifted a set of 6 with the chance of going clear in what was looking like being a close game. Why don't we back ourselves more? We've got the 4th best attack in the league. I don't suppose any of us envisaged them dropping out to our dead ball line though - what a kick!

My main gripe is that in the second half our heads seemed to go down far too easily. When only 5 and then 7 points behind (with plenty of time on the clock) and even when we had the ball, there were too many standing around, hands on hips, not even getting back onside. We needed our 'game changers' (they know who they are) to step up and I'm not convinced they did that. Carney however had another great game (20 carries for 197m!) - the most explosive player on the park.

Also, the ref bashing was a bit embarrassing. He gave us plenty of penalties and yet was getting some ridiculous levels of abuse. Note to (some) Salford fans: it isn't, by default, the ref's fault.

Having said all that, we have been beaten by Wigan by a total of 7 points over two fixtures, and in another year may have done the oh so elusive double. What did Sheens say at the start of the year, we may lose but we won't get beaten? Long may that continue...

To a certain degree I agree with you Jgr.But it was exasperating because I thought Wigan was their for the taking I just thought it was dumb football, also not finding touch with the penalty at a crucial time,I don't think we will get eight without the points back I think the bottom eight with Leeds Huddersfield and possibly Widnes will be harder than last season

Anyone know what the crowd was?

Agree with most of this, but going for the 2 I disagreed with at their time, as I did against wire. Even if he'd have scored it. We just can't defend well enough. If we had a better defence I probably would have agreed with you

For the positives you mention, totally agree. We are going in the right direction, losing still hurts though!

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Didn't you watch Wigan get relegated or the Millward coaching era?