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I thought the attitude was off yesterday, we scored early quite easily, which perhaps added to the feeling of not needing to play at our best, always a dangerous thing particularly as we are not good enough to do that. From the kick off Griffin didn`t compete then shortly after Johnson gets caught in goal because of a lack of any urgency. Defensively didn`t move up to close them down and when a team gets on a roll its difficult to stop.
That said if Nials pass goes to hand we score and we may be talking about getting out of jail rather than another long drive back from Hull with nothing to show for it !
Collectively though I thought we were off.

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Quote: builditandtheycome "Big fan of Johnson but his lazy ball return changed the game, he got caught in goal and they scored off the drop out.'"

That was true of Evalds & Griffin too , far too much jogging back to collect &doing half hearted jigs back up the field as the defensive line closed in.
Need to take a page from Widnes play book :- run hard & fast to collect the kick ,don't kid yourself run hard & straight to claim field position to set your team up for your set of six midfield .

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we was poor for the majority of the game. Carney was shocking yesterday- his defending caught out of position and steps inside too much. we looked knackered in the first half. The issue we have is our bench is poor. Logan ok this season but better hooker next year. Im sure forster and other forwards would do a better job than joeseph.

Missing hauraki. When vidot is back he goes into the centres and move sau into the second row. Jones got a knock yesterday.

George griffin and koppy only 2 who played well yesterday.

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Quote: red salford "we was poor for the majority of the game. Carney was shocking yesterday- his defending caught out of position and steps inside too much. -----George griffin and koppy only 2 who played well yesterday.'"

Agree with Younger Griffin & Kopzac

However I must defend Carney ( Even if he can't ... ) .

He is current Top metre maker in SL 990 mtrs, ( Josh Griffin is 2nd-895mtrs ) and in the top 10 carries ( 101) .
this is a testimony to the reliance on Carney & Griffin to drive us out & cover our forwards. Carney is busting a gut doing this and this must affect in defence.

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Quote: middleman "Agree with Younger Griffin & Kopzac

However I must defend Carney ( Even if he can't ... ) .

He is current Top metre maker in SL 990 mtrs, ( Josh Griffin is 2nd-895mtrs ) and in the top 10 carries ( 101) .
this is a testimony to the reliance on Carney & Griffin to drive us out & cover our forwards. Carney is busting a gut doing this and this must affect in defence.'"


I highlighted this about a week ago to plenty of silence. Carney is doing a different job than he had at Cas, and he's doing a good job of it. Watsheens has told him to come in and get involved and he's doing the work of an extra forward, rather than sit out on the wing and wait for walk-ins.

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Agree that Carney has been superb this season and made us plenty of metres but still thought he didn't play well yesterday. Not on his own there but true nonetheless. Everyone can have an off day. To be fair hull KR played it right. I think they only kicked long to him once and targeted Carney to run at with an overlap. They realised that we don't move across on that side so well. I think that O'Brien was defending on that side too and they realised he wasn't used to that position having played FB all season. Smart play

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